Burn on belly? - Page 3

bcr229 · 06-11-13, 10:47 AM

Snake_Sitter is the BRB expert. He breeds them and has some beautiful animals.

I have two, a young male we got last year and an adult female who arrived yesterday. My understanding is that they do well with a cool side of 75*F, a warm side of 85*F, and higher than 85*F can be dangerous or fatal for them long-term. Babies need higher humidity, about 90%, where adults are ok at 70-80%. My youngster spends most of his time in his humid hide on the cool side, and he's only really active for a few hours in the early evening.

I think 65*F is way too cool, even breeders only drop the temps down to 70*F to get them to go into season.

toripyth · 06-11-13, 01:18 PM

Thanks Starbuck, I've been on the fence about just buying a digital one to save myself money in the long run. I will pick one up.

Mikon: He is active in the sense that he is exploring and climbing and sitting in his water. When the temps are higher he just sits on the cold side of his cage. Also, if he was seeking heat wouldn't he go into his hide box that has the UTH underneath it?

Mikoh4792 · 06-11-13, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by toripyth

Thanks Starbuck, I've been on the fence about just buying a digital one to save myself money in the long run. I will pick one up.

Mikon: He is active in the sense that he is exploring and climbing and sitting in his water. When the temps are higher he just sits on the cold side of his cage. Also, if he was seeking heat wouldn't he go into his hide box that has the UTH underneath it?

Yes I was just speculating. Also, it could be that his hide box is not warm enough so he is out looking for warmer areas. Again, just speculating. As someone else just mentioned the thermal gradient should be 75-85.

toripyth · 06-11-13, 05:20 PM

I highly doubt that his hide box isn't warm enough but thank you for the speculation. I just want what is best for him.

Mikoh4792 · 06-11-13, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by toripyth

I highly doubt that his hide box isn't warm enough but thank you for the speculation. I just want what is best for him.

You just said that his warm spot is 80F. That isn't warm enough.

I just looked up dozens of caresheets and they all recommend hot spots above 80F.

toripyth · 06-11-13, 09:48 PM

Heat gradients in his cage gets up to 80F, those are from thermometers on the glass of his terrarium. I do not have a thermometer inside of his hide box but I'm assuming with an ambient temp of 80 and an UTH beneath it it would be warmer inside of his hide box.

Sorry bcr, I didn't see your post earlier. Thanks for the info! I will raise his temps to 75-85 since the general consensus is that having it lower is detrimental to his health.

Mikoh4792 · 06-12-13, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by toripyth

Heat gradients in his cage gets up to 80F, those are from thermometers on the glass of his terrarium. I do not have a thermometer inside of his hide box but I'm assuming with an ambient temp of 80 and an UTH beneath it it would be warmer inside of his hide box.

Sorry bcr, I didn't see your post earlier. Thanks for the info! I will raise his temps to 75-85 since the general consensus is that having it lower is detrimental to his health.

So why aren't are you monitoring his warm spot? Why are you assuming? That's the important place to measure temps as that is where your snake will be spending it's time after eating or whenever it wants to get warm.

toripyth · 06-25-13, 04:52 PM

And how would you recommend monitoring the temperatures inside of his hide box?

**Aaron_S** · 06-25-13, 05:07 PM

I read to the part that it was "confirmed" (still guessing) scale rot.

Scale rot comes from two things normally:

1. Overly wet conditions and the snake is sitting in it.

2. Really dirty husbandry

I'm going on a limb with the first one here is the case.

If it continues, switch to a paper towel substrate to keep the wounds from being irritated by rough substrate and use a betadine solution to keep it clean until it heals.

Mikoh4792 · 06-25-13, 07:36 PM

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And how would you recommend monitoring the temperatures inside of his hide box?

By placing a thermometer probe in there. you could also check with an infrared heat gun.

toripyth · 06-26-13, 02:29 PM

Aaron: I'm pretty sure it was due to too much moisture. As I said earlier he likes to spend a lot of his time by his water dish and when I changed his substrate when I first noticed the discoloration on his scales I saw a layer of water underneath the substrate in that area. It probably got there from him making his water overflow. The fogger is located in that area too though so it probably didn't help. He shed shortly after I changed the substrate and he shed the black marks off with the rest of the skin. He is doing great now.

I've turned down the fogger and will make sure to not fill the water up as high as to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions!
Also Mikoh, I will look into getting either a thermometer probe or an infrared heat gun. Thank you for your concern.