how'ya like the hair?

[spidergecko]

Declawing - cruel
Tail docking - cruel
Ear cropping - cruel
Defanging - cruel
Dying fur - stupid, but hardly cruel.

The dog probably doesn't even know or even care that her fur is dyed. She probably wagged her tail through the while procedure. The cruelest part was the trimming of her fur into those stupid shapes and that is something that is done by many dog owners anyway. I would call it cruel if the procedure involved extended suffering and I really doubt it did.

ydnic does have a point. Just because an animal only knows a plastic box as a home doesn't mean it's necessarily fair. I wouldn't call it cruel but it is much worse than painting a dog stupid colours.

Some of the benefits of dying dogs is that is shows off the breed at shows, it garners interest in dog shows and generates money. It allows breeders of poodles to populate the market with new blood for all those wackos that feel like getting a poodle to dye for themselves.

I used to stick tape on the bottom of my cat's feet when I was a kid. THAT was cruel - but really funny.

[ydnic]

tell me the point or benifit of captive breeding reptiles?

[ydnic]

I fed my cat those pop candies - cruel but also quite funny

[marisa]

You seriously do not know the point or benefit of breeding captive reptiles?!?!

For one, private breeders have saved nearly extinct species, learned priceless information that lead to saving others, and providing a new better source for snakes instead of wild caughts in most cases......it has done AMAZING things for reptiles on a whole.

Marisa

[daver676]

Originally posted by ydnic
tell me the point or benifit of captive breeding reptiles?

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a weiner!

You need to read a book. Wait. You should probably learn to read first, then work your way up. The benefits of captive breeding reptiles will come to you. Just give it time. Precious time.

[ydnic]

yes - thank you - as soon as I learn to read I might actually do that, as of now i`ve only learned to type.

Marisa of coarse I know these things, however, thank you for pointing them out because others may not.

All I was getting at is the fact that Hooter had said "Many people that keep snakes and other reptiles also breed them which in return helps populate the market with new blood thus insuring the future for many reptiles found today." And seriously if hooter believes that these are the primary reasons- like flooding a market for every inexperianced person to run out on a whim and pick up a snake for reasons like they saw it on T.V. and it was cool - I find it strange that hooter would think this fine but on the other hand feel that coloring a dogs hair is cruel

Anyways I was actually wondering what hooters idea behind the point of captive breeding reptiles was

Either way I don`t really think either is cruel - to each their own -

[hooter]

ydnic ,

I think I was clear enough when i explained the points of captive breeding. You on the other hand have yet to tell me the point of coloring a dogs hair to resemble a clown.

And just to answer your question or statment as of how does *flooding a market for every inexperianced person to run out on a whim and pick up a snake* Well let me explain a little how this works:

Someone gets a snake from a pet store and then he feels he should get another snake after his love for snakes or reptiles in general grows larger. He soon finds himself with a huge collection and starts to pair up for breeding. This person is now apart of reptile forums and is apart of his local Herpetological Society. He loves his snakes so much he decides to donate to snake conservation groups and helps all he can to protect endangered reptiles. He helps teach to anyone wanting to learn about reptiles such as schools and other community events.

This, all from one boy who walked into a pet store and bought himself a corn snake many years ago. Dont tell me that cant happen because that boy was me.

[ydnic]

*sniff* Real touching...and if what you say id true then my statement wasn`t really regarding you was it?

As for a dog with its hair colored whether it was to resemble a clown, a punk, or a mailman - I don`t really know the point because I don`t do it. I do know that in my city people do things like that and bring them to childrens hospitals and it does bring a smile to the childrens faces *sniff*- however WHO CARES?!

I don`t see why people get so worked up over such ridiculous things -
and its funny how an entertaining picture of a little dog with a hair cut got a three page thread on a forum

[Artemis]

Hahaha, Im not worked up over it or anything. Im not losing any sleep over the multi colored poodle. I still don't think its right. Maybe not cruel, true, but I am entitled to think it isnt a very good idea. Its like injecting dye into neon tetras. (although that I think is cruel, and can significantly shorten the life of the fish)

All that aside, though, I ultimately conclude what I always conclude. To each his own

Artemis

[zero&stich]

The dog looks like a dang fire cracker for the 4th of July.

Man, I have never seen an animal with that much pampering. Least dogs are color blind. If I was a dog and I saw myself looking like a clown, I'd shoot myself.

[soda]

...makes me think of that movie 'Best in Show' ---I think the hair coloring is a scream! And those very pampered dogs could care less -- hey! they're probably living better than I am! The dye they use is vegetable based and harmless.

[dia]

I don't believe coloring the fur of the dog could be considered. Possibly degrading, but I'm sure the dog doesn't realize it.
Now :<a href="http://www.molokosynthemesc.com/search/srch2004.exe?pic=pierce/11-surface/A40512/high/tattoobyhikmet2.jpg&tsect=pierce/11-surface/animal001.html&desc=Tattooed+dog+by+Niko%27s+Body+ Decoration%2C+North+Cyprus%3Cbr%3E%3Cfont+size%3D-1%3ENOTE%3A+BME+does+not+condone+this%2C+so+please +don%27t+complain+to+us+about+it.+If+you+don%27t+l ike+it%2C+urge+your+local+health+board+to+ban+pier cing+and+tattooing+animals.">this is abuse</a>. In a tattoo mag once I saw a girl at a convention with some small dog almost overed in tattoos. -That's- wrong.

[dia]

The caption at the bottom that was there when I viewed the page seems to not work with the link I set up.
It reads:<B>Tattooed dog by Niko's Body Decoration, North Cyprus
NOTE: BME does not condone this, so please don't complain to us about it. If you don't like it, urge your local health board to ban piercing and tattooing animals.</B>

[Siretsap]

Originally posted by marisa
You seriously do not know the point or benefit of breeding captive reptiles?!?!

For one, private breeders have saved nearly extinct species, learned priceless information that lead to saving others, and providing a new better source for snakes instead of wild caughts in most cases......it has done AMAZING things for reptiles on a whole.

Marisa

Actually, this is what people want to believe... The fact is that if those species are endangered it's cause we caught all of them or destroyed their habitat... It's fun to see how people like to think we are god and try to save the planet from extinction without ever questionning why it is this way in the 1st place...

If you raise an animal in captivity, it will not be suitable to release it in the wild, so you are not saving the species but condoning it to a life in a prison...

[soda]

excellent point Siretsap.....