Close call!! - Page 2

KORBIN5895 · 07-30-12, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

Before I even start to say my opinion I would like to know how old you are....

Ditto.

@op

Take this advice... don't post any of your "human" mistakes here again. Just post positive stuff. This forum is long on knowledge but short on indulgence. What I mean by that is the amount of specific knowledge on this site is amazing but very few people are going to pat your butt and say it's okay when it's not.

Now if that was a child that was neglected for half an hour and got lost I think social services would be at your door.

You also have some .maturity issues to deal with before you start position on a public forum. If you make a stupid mistake and post it , you better believe you will catch flak. So either get thicker skin or stop posting.

As for you threatening to leave this forum, please don't use worthless threats. I personally won't lose any sleep over it.

Kettennatter · 07-30-12, 07:37 AM

Quite frankly, I don't mind people mentioning their mistakes. Heck, I've done things wrong a number of times. As long as it is framed as a lesson learned and a warning to others, it is fine. But I guess if somebody is looking for sympathy, Facebook may be the better resource.

MrBD1980 · 07-30-12, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kettennatter

Quite frankly, I don't mind people mentioning their mistakes. Heck, I've done things wrong a number of times. As long as it is framed as a lesson learned and a warning to others, it is fine. But I guess if somebody is looking for sympathy, Facebook may be the better resource.

I think this is a very well thought out post!

Having read some other 'whoops, look what I did' posts recently I would say that on a whole the community is supportive (although slightly scolding) when people post along the lines of " this has happened and please can everyone learn from my error" as opposed to the "wow, I did this, isn't that really bad"

I for one will take your lesson and apply it to my 'warning list' although many others will simply see a rookie mistake being publicised.

All the best with the future care.

Brian

Jay · 07-30-12, 08:20 AM

Next thread "snake mysteriously died" such a shame, I love to have that stunning snake.

StudentoReptile · 07-30-12, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kettennatter

Quite frankly, I don't mind people mentioning their mistakes. Heck, I've done things wrong a number of times. As long as it is framed as a lesson learned and a warning to others, it is fine. But I guess if somebody is looking for sympathy, Facebook may be the better resource.

Ditto.

I too have made many mistakes over the years. Just made a boo-boo this past weekend. I posted it to a local facebook group, not looking for sympathy or anything, but it was a "Hey, I goofed up. I knew better, and look where it got me. Learn from my mistake and don't do what I did."

In this case, the lesson is: don't try to mix "play time" with your routine. I have certain times I dedicate to maintenance. Spare time can be spent taking herps outside. I don't mix the two...even if its just letting some baby tortoises basking in a tub. Lots can happen if I'm not supervising. If I have to go inside, the animals come inside with me. We can always go out and get fresh air later. Its not worth the risk of losing that animal.

Wildside · 07-30-12, 08:54 AM

Reptilegal there are plenty of circle-jerk derping herp forums out there. This is most definitely not one of them. Which is why I love it

moshirimon · 07-30-12, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay

Next thread "snake mysteriously died" such a shame, I love to have that stunning snake.

Yes, it really is a stunning snake.

DragonsEye · 07-30-12, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Ditto.
Take this advice... don't post any of your "human" mistakes here again. Just post positive stuff. This forum is long on knowledge but short on indulgence. What I mean by that is the amount of specific knowledge on this site is amazing but very few people are going to pat your butt and say it's okay when it's not.

Can't entirely agree with you or many of the other members, Korbin. Was what the op did stupid? Absolutely. Should there be loads of sympathetic "that's all right dear" comments? Definitely not. But should folks not post their dumb ___ mistakes? No. There are always going to be people doing stupid things -- even some otherwise intelligent keepers. Maybe, just maybe, another newbie to the hobby might read posts concerning some of these stupid mistakes ... things they may have not considered ... and learn from them. What a novel idea.

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Now if that was a child that was neglected for half an hour and got lost I think social services would be at your door.

You keep living in that fantasy world.

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

You also have some .maturity issues to deal with before you start position on a public forum. If you make a stupid mistake and post it , you better believe you will catch flak. So either get thicker skin or stop posting.
As for you threatening to leave this forum, please don't use worthless threats. I personally won't lose any sleep over it.

With that, I do have to agree.

MoreliAddict · 07-30-12, 03:36 PM

Thing is, this is the first time that OP purposely posed a mistake. She thought the shed looked good...

Gungirl · 07-30-12, 03:44 PM

I think we need to just drop it.. She knows how pathetic she looks lets stop acting like kids and let her move on. Hopefully she will grow up and start doing better.

jarich · 07-30-12, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

Before I even start to say my opinion I would like to know how old you are....

Yikes, this is a little more harsh than I remember this community being.

Kat, quite obviously, hit the nail on the head here as regards the age of the OP. While many of us have learned things from age and maturity (it seems likely one more than the other in some cases

) there are some young people on this forum looking for help and advice too. And what is age and maturity if not years of mistakes and close calls? This was a mistake, yes, and one that was hard earned (Im not sure I could say that I would actually cry at the loss of any of my snakes, if Im honest). You might notice, if you happen to have any people in your home at that age, that in cases like this they tend to respond much better to positive reinforcement than negative, too. Nobody is asking you to be a bunch of coddling idiots, but a whole bunch of "what ifs" and "you made one other mistake" are hardly saving the world either. You can say whatever you want about "you're just doing it to save the snake", but you'll never make any difference to that snake without getting through to the owner in a meaningful way first.

Starting to sound like a bunch of old people at a retirement home.

"Kids these days! No respect! Turn down that music! Rar" slams cane to the ground and tries to call the police using the remote control...

Gungirl · 07-30-12, 04:20 PM

If she was 15 I would speak differently to her than if she was 20+ that was the only reason I was asking. A child MIGHT have a little more of an excuse than an adult would. Seeing as this person is 18+ from what I am told then they need to suck it up and get over our "harsh" advice/comments.

marvelfreak · 07-30-12, 04:36 PM

We've all made mistakes. She a young girl sharing one of her mistake that from the sound of it was upsetting and i am sure she learned a lesson from it.
I believe the reason for sharing this story was to show us the lesson she learned.

If we don't share our mistakes than how can others learn from them.

Here's a thread showing some mistakes people have made in hope other won't make the same mistakes.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...u-ashamed.html

jarich · 07-30-12, 04:40 PM

The girl learned her lesson from the loss she felt when she thought the snake was gone, not from any of us or our comments. The only thing she learned from us is not to bother coming here anymore. Im not sure if that was the mission everyone was on, as the health of the snake was used as the justification for all that 'tough love'. I wonder how well that snake will get on now that we aren't all there to protect it? Ha!

Reptilegal · 07-30-12, 06:37 PM

Ok, so, iv calmed down a bit,
So here i go,

I am 22 and i am VERY sensitive. My animals are my world and it is a punch in the chest being told stuff like "i feel sorry for that snake, if you cant look after him find someone who can!" that does NOTHING but make me feel 1 ich tall! If you want to tell me what iv done wrong then GO FOR IT!! but in a NICER WAY!!
eg: instead of "that is a terrible shed! Mist him! And why would you leave the bowls out? That is very neglectful! I feel so sorry for your snake, if you cant look after him find someone who can!"

Go for: that is not a good shed at all, it looks like there isnt enough humidity in there, try spraying him and try to make sure you dont forget the water bowls again
If the shed still isnt going well try soaking him, and try to not let the next shed be like this because it is not really good.

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Explenation on the The shedding thread:
It was his FIRST shed with me
I knew it was not the 'best' shed but i DIDNT know it was TERRIBLE
Before i took the photos i put back in the 2 waterbowls which i 'acidentaly' left out, it was a mistake, and i WONT do it again as iv put a sign on the enclosure to remind me, not that i WILL forget, just incase.
Straight after i took the photos i sprayed him with warm water, and within 10-15 min it all came off in one piece and felt like cling wrap, so it wasnt dry.
And i KNOW what to do next time so he WONT shed roigh again!

Explenation on the close call thread:
I ADMITTED what i did was STUPID and yet i still got criticised?!?!
Maybe your right, maybe i should post all the good things and not post the bad things that i make mistakes with, which were 2 mistakes in the 3 months i have had him, i know they were BIG mistakes but with the first one i CORRECTED it and no harm done and lesson learned
And the second one was STUPID of me, i have NEVER left his side before when i take him out for sun
But this time i stupidly got distracted and nearly lost him!
Im not really sure if it was half an hour, it may have just been 10 min but hey! I made a stupid mistake! And i learned from it!!
And it seems that i have made a STUPID mistake by wanting to share it!!

I NEVER said i was looking for sympathy, but i WASNT looking for stabs in the back either!!

Like is said, when i post other pics of him people say he is STUNNING,BEAUTIFUL ect, he WASNT when i first got him!!! He was given to me by a reotile keeper who had it given to HIM by a teen couldnt look after him anymore! He gad ticks, mites and was UNDERFED! and it was my care and LOVE for him that he is back to normal weight and is tick/mite free and overall healthy!!
He told me he had a diamond python that th teen couldnt look after and asked if i could keep him,
So i hopped on the net to apply for th licence and to read up as much about their requirements as possible, signed up on here hoping that i would be HELPED
and bought the snakes basking light, mite rid spray and 2 hide areas.
When my licence came through i went and purchased him and he came with his enclosure, which he is staying in until the weather warms up and then he is going into the large outdoor enclosure which has a wooden enclosed area and a big outdoor area

I know its not the best first snake,but i knew that i would go to the moon and back to try and give him the best life though i knew that there would me mistakes along the way but i dont know a reptile keeper who hasnt made mistakes.
I LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES!! and its only if i KEEP making the same mistake that is a problem!! But i WONT!!!!! NO SIREE!!!

PLEASE no more criticism on this thread, iv taken my share, but i guess i cant stop ya.