I'm, too sexy for MA skin, too sexy for MA skin soo sexy it's a sin!!! - Page 2

Gungirl · 07-25-12, 01:30 PM

Regardless of the ledge issue.. there is MUCH wrong in the photo that HAS to get fixed.

snake man12 · 07-25-12, 01:32 PM

I agree.^^^ Get some more moisture in that viv please.

Terranaut · 07-25-12, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CDN_Blood

Poor thing. It's hard to imagine that anyone would post something which so clearly demonstrates inadequate housing and poor husbandry. What a sad, sad, sad thing to see

Although I agree with this I will add that one bad shed will not kill your snake BUT fix it now and follow the advice given.
One shed like this is a lesson and means you learned from it.
Multiple sheds like this means your being crule to your snake.
So lets leave it as one please. It takes a lot to screw up a carpets molt.

Reptilegal · 07-25-12, 04:53 PM

Ok everyone,
His enclosure is perfect for him, you are only seeing a FRACTION of his enclosure so i think it is VERY rude to say i am keeping him bad!!
He has TWO large waterbowls on the floor,
The string is FINE its only used to keep the cover on his light so he wont get burned,
His molt WAS a bit shaggy at the beggining cos i forgot to put his waterbowls in for a day,
But once the humidity was raised he came out SMOOTHLY!! As the last 2 pixs showed!!!!
he DID NOT and DOES NOT have his eyecaps remain in his eyes!!!
He has 2 hides!!! Which both have insulated padding in them and he DID use one at the beggining of the shed, and then came out to finish it off!!

HE DOES have climbing branches!!!! Straight ones and thick twisty ones!!!
I have bought him a HUGE outdoor enclosure with a large enlosed area and a large outdoor area but he wont go out there untill it gets warmer!!!

SO before you get all RUDE to me and CRITICISE me, THINK!!!!

OSMDEATHOWNER · 07-25-12, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CDN_Blood

Poor thing. It's hard to imagine that anyone would post something which so clearly demonstrates inadequate housing and poor husbandry. What a sad, sad, sad thing to see

I agree with that. sorry, sometimes its nothin to do but just learn as you go. bad move though

Toronto1977 · 07-25-12, 05:07 PM

I have to agree with everyone as well. There are A LOT of experienced keepers here and you should take in what they're saying and LEARN from it. Everyone is concerned for the safety of the snake, so the delivery may be brutal, but the message is important. That loose string can be a hazard and you should remove it all together, and you never mentioned whether you keep the snake on any sort of substrate.

Reptilegal · 07-25-12, 05:08 PM

SEE!! WENT WELL!!!

Ivalynfyre · 07-25-12, 05:28 PM

..er, why did you take the water bowls out of the enclosure and leave it out, anyways? I would think that you'd take it out and put it right back in after cleaning/replacing the water...

Terranaut · 07-25-12, 05:47 PM

Look I know it's tough to be cool about people telling you that you have made a mistake but your snake suffers when they look like that. Obviously you love your animal or you wouldn't be upset about the comments. Maybe instead of getting ugly you should be thinking about how to avoid this and make shedding more comfortable for your snake.
Next time get informed not upset.

Reptilegal · 07-25-12, 08:48 PM

I dont take 'what a bad enclosure,poor snake, etc'
As being INFORMATIVE!!
If someone KINDLY told me that its a bad shed, eg ' i think he is having a bit of trouble, try misting him or get the humidity up' ect
That would have been MUCH better!

Reptilegal · 07-25-12, 08:56 PM

I dont take 'what a bad enclosure,poor snake, etc'
As being INFORMATIVE!!
If someone KINDLY told me that its a bad shed, eg ' i think he is having a bit of trouble, try misting him or get the humidity up' ect
That would have been MUCH better!
NOONE should have criticised that his enclosure is terrible because they do not KNOW!!!
the string is FINE!!! it looks big and long in th pic but its not!! Ge cant strangle himself on it at all!!
And yes i FORGOT to put the water bowls back in! I guess that WAS a bit careless but it was a MISTAKE!!
i DO realise that his shed was not going well (it was his first shed with me), but as soon as i put the water bowls back in and misted him, it eventually, (within 10 min) it came off INTACT!!
my lesson has been learned for the NEXT shed,
But i cant take being RUDLY criticised!!!

Just NICELY tell me what i may be doing wrong and i will listen!!

His shed ended up coming of fine, NO retained eyecaps!
And he looks beautiful thats the main thing!!!
No more to be said!!!!!!

Wildside · 07-25-12, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reptilegal

I dont take 'what a bad enclosure,poor snake, etc'
As being INFORMATIVE!!
If someone KINDLY told me that its a bad shed, eg ' i think he is having a bit of trouble, try misting him or get the humidity up' ect
That would have been MUCH better!
NOONE should have criticised that his enclosure is terrible because they do not KNOW!!!
the string is FINE!!! it looks big and long in th pic but its not!! Ge cant strangle himself on it at all!!
And yes i FORGOT to put the water bowls back in! I guess that WAS a bit careless but it was a MISTAKE!!
i DO realise that his shed was not going well (it was his first shed with me), but as soon as i put the water bowls back in and misted him, it eventually, (within 10 min) it came off INTACT!!
my lesson has been learned for the NEXT shed,
But i cant take being RUDLY criticised!!!

Just NICELY tell me what i may be doing wrong and i will listen!!

His shed ended up coming of fine, NO retained eyecaps!
And he looks beautiful thats the main thing!!!
No more to be said!!!!!!

There were a few post that were nice about suggesting a raise in humidity, substrate, etc., not to mention a few request to see the whole cage. BTW that is not a good shed, period. A good shed comes of easily and in one piece. Also the presence of water bowls alone isn't going to put the humidity where it needs to be. That shed is a result of long term improper husbandry and those pics are proof of it.

Now just to clear the air, previous post may not have been all that friendly but I didn't see anyone downright accuse you of animal cruelty. So far no one has doubted your capability or even your desire to keep this animal, just your knowledge on how it should be done. I think you should sit back, relax and learn. I'm new here too and rather impressed with how willing this forum is to help rather than attack. I don't think you're gonna find a better source of info stemming from personal experiences than right here.

Jendee · 07-25-12, 09:53 PM

It did not come of intact it came off in pieces bad sheds aren't just humidity realated it very much could be stressed related which is why its important a good shed you will find inside out in a rolled up ball..when you unravel it it should be moist! I think pol are shocked and are approaching you on impulse BC that's far from a big sexy snake...he looks sick to seasoned herpers

Reptilegal · 07-25-12, 09:53 PM

Well i bought him from a snake breeder who had it given to HIM by a guy who couldnt look after him anymore and he was underweight,
And i have got him to normal weight and is going great!!

EVERYTHING i am doing with him is perfect!! Apart from the shed issue,
But i guess lesson learned and i with take proper action the next time he sheds!
I know some peopke said it to me nicely but some DID not
I LOVE and CARE for my snake, but im only human so i DO make MISTAKES! and thats what caused a bad shed in the FIRST part of his shed!!
But i toik the advice and misted him and bumped the humidity to 82% and it came off well and iv gained some knowledge in what do do in the future.

Rogue628 · 07-26-12, 04:49 AM

I'm sorry you feel like you've been browbeaten about the husbandry of your animal. With such a large diverse group of people, you're going to find some are more blunt (or brutal) in honesty of opinion, while others will beat around the bush, trying to find a more polite way of trying to give you knowledge about your snake.

Although I don't quite remember you saying if this was your first snake, I'm assuming it is from your posts. You've asked alot of newbie like questions as well. You joined this forum in order to gain knowledge on how to keep your animal properly as well as learn about him and I'm glad you've learned first hand the importance of humidity, especially during shed. Learn from that lesson and try to not let it happen again. Stuck shed can pose problems with your animal, so you want to make sure he has proper humidity each time you notice he's going into shed. You may not always get what we call a perfect shed (all one piece) and it's ok for it to be in a few large pieces, but, to be honest, the way he was looking in the first pic, wasn't a good shed. To be honest, the way the shed looked when it started coming off looks like it was due to not having the proper humidity for a while. That's why it's important to increase his humidity as soon as you realize he's going to shed soon. The quicker you can up the humidity, the more success at having a perfect shed.

There are a few things I would like to politely point out...it's not directed towards you for being a bad keeper...instead think of it as polite suggestions to keep your favorite pet healthy and happy, ok?

We were all new in the hobby once, and as I've learned even recently (and I've been keeping several types of snakes for a while), there is always something you can be doing better.

While he's in his shedding process, try to not handle him if you can help it. Their skin is sensitive.

His enclosure. Now, don't jump to conclusions but from the little bit we are seeing in your pics, there are some things you can do to make it better for him. One is he needs something better to lay on instead of painted wood. There are tons of people here who use substrates such as aspen, repti-bark, eco-earth, and all other sorts of 'bedding' you can purchase at a store. I personally use newspaper. It's not the prettiest looking substrate in the world, but it makes for much easier clean up for the enclosure and with it being so easy to change out, I don't mind doing daily cage cleanings (take out the paper, wipe down the enclosure with at least some hot water for a quick clean) if I have to, especially since I have a couple of animals that seem to know if they knock over their water bowls, they'll be getting out for a little while lol. I'm pretty OCD about my animal's and their enclosures because it's the perfect breeding ground for all types of bacteria and other nastiness that can and will harm your snake. So please at least put some paper down. If anything, it's a small barrier for possible splinters you can't see, but his scales can find.

You said that string was there to help hold the light cover. I personally would try to use something safer, like a zip tie, but if you are going to continue using it, can you at least cut it shorter? Just as an extra precaution.

I would like to ask how you're heating his enclosure. If it's just by a basking type light, he's getting heat topside but not enough on his belly. Snakes need belly heat, especially to help digest their food and heat lights typically don't give off enough heat to give him an appropriate amount of belly heat. So when you're measuring his enclosure's temp, you need to see how warm it is on the floor to get a more accurate reading of what he's actually getting.

What is he using for a hide? Is he going under the ledge or does he have something else he can call his home or safe place. Snakes are insecure animals and need a place they can feel safe, or even wait in ambush for food (as they do in the wild). Most snakes feel more secure in a hide that allows them to touch at least 3 sides when they're curled up.

Your particular animal may like to have a branch. If you don't have something he can climb on, try giving him something. If he doesn't seem to use it after having one for a couple of weeks, you can take it out if you want. Putting a PVC pipe in that type of enclosure and making it easy to remove would be really simple to do.

Your animal is pretty simple to keep as they don't require alot of heat and humidity like others, which if don't keep their husbandry correct, can develop little nasty things like a respiratory infection.

I'm not telling you what you're doing is bad. I'm just throwing some stuff out there, kind of like food for thought in ways to help you became a better owner. I'm sure there are things I've forgotten, but I'm tired and haven't been able to sleep (insomnia sucks) so I'm not functioning at my best.

Remember, you joined this forum for a reason. And we have alot of really good and knowledgeable people here who are more than willing to help, even if some do seem rude. We all truly have the animal's best interest at heart. We're here to help you.