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Old 12-29-16, 08:48 PM   #16
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Re: Shedding With Unusual Kink In Tail.

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I have his humidity at 70% which was my problem. His tail has shed fine. He did not suffer a trauma, he was born this way.

I clearly stated if that was the only way that I could get him to properly shed, I would put him in the tub. His health comes first. However, the reason why he would need the tub is humidity issues, and I have gotten that up. Setting up a whole new enclosure would be an expense I don't want to spend unless that was the absolute last choice. It's not about aesthetics, it's the thought that I'm shutting up my snake in a box. Though I know that ball pythons are successfully kept in tubs and that people prefer to keep them this way, all I can think of is he's shut up in a dark box with no environmental stimulation, and the thought of putting him through that really bothers me. Yes, I know that I'm anthropomorphizing it, but that is why I keep them as pets as opposed to breeding or owning large collections.
If you'd read my response above I tried to address this.

As far as being able to view your snake and offering stimulation, a tub and a tank are on equal grounds. Literally the only thing putting your snake in a tub would make harder is taking photos and seeing accurate colors.

You can see a snake in a tub just as easily as one in a tank, and a snake can see out of a tub just as easily in a tub as in a tank. Unless you're not using a clear tub or you have the tub in a rack, keeping a ball python in a tub isn't going to make a lick of difference as opposed to keeping it in a tank as far as visibility goes.

A tub could be set up for under $100, thermostat included if you bought a Hydrofarm. I've set up tubs for under $50, all hides were repurposed plastic food containers and bedding was paper towels (at least during quarantine). So just the tub cost ($15-20) and the thermostat price ($30) was included.

If you've got the tank working then it's not as big a deal, but as I mentioned in my other comment, a tub is easier. If it's taking a lot of upkeep to keep it at 70% then it can get tiring after years and years of doing it, whereas a tub takes care of itself.

In the meantime, as long as the tank is providing proper husbandry and you're willing to do the upkeep, the tank works. The tub is just a suggestion.



I also want to add there are clear totes with enough room to comfortably house a 4'-4.5' snake so your last response of having only room for a "10-inch diameter water dish, hides, etc" is unfounded and inaccurate. If you were to get something like a 66 qt tub for your ball python it could easily house 7-10 hides and a water dish large enough to soak in for your 95 gram bp. I have a 2'-2.5' 130-150 gram boa constrictor in a 66 qt tub and he has 5 hides, a big fake vine, and a water dish large enough to soak in. My 4' boa is in 100+ qt tub, and it only has room for 2-3 hides and a water dish large enough to soak in, but he will be moved to a 4'x2' eventually.

There are also Christmas tree totes that are like 5'x2' or something like that.
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Re: Shedding With Unusual Kink In Tail.

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If you'd read my response above I tried to address this.

As far as being able to view your snake and offering stimulation, a tub and a tank are on equal grounds. Literally the only thing putting your snake in a tub would make harder is taking photos and seeing accurate colors.

You can see a snake in a tub just as easily as one in a tank, and a snake can see out of a tub just as easily in a tub as in a tank. Unless you're not using a clear tub or you have the tub in a rack, keeping a ball python in a tub isn't going to make a lick of difference as opposed to keeping it in a tank as far as visibility goes.

A tub could be set up for under $100, thermostat included if you bought a Hydrofarm. I've set up tubs for under $50, all hides were repurposed plastic food containers and bedding was paper towels (at least during quarantine). So just the tub cost ($15-20) and the thermostat price ($30) was included.

If you've got the tank working then it's not as big a deal, but as I mentioned in my other comment, a tub is easier. If it's taking a lot of upkeep to keep it at 70% then it can get tiring after years and years of doing it, whereas a tub takes care of itself.

In the meantime, as long as the tank is providing proper husbandry and you're willing to do the upkeep, the tank works. The tub is just a suggestion.



I also want to add there are clear totes with enough room to comfortably house a 4'-4.5' snake so your last response of having only room for a "10-inch diameter water dish, hides, etc" is unfounded and inaccurate. If you were to get something like a 66 qt tub for your ball python it could easily house 7-10 hides and a water dish large enough to soak in for your 95 gram bp. I have a 2'-2.5' 130-150 gram boa constrictor in a 66 qt tub and he has 5 hides, a big fake vine, and a water dish large enough to soak in. My 4' boa is in 100+ qt tub, and it only has room for 2-3 hides and a water dish large enough to soak in, but he will be moved to a 4'x2' eventually.

There are also Christmas tree totes that are like 5'x2' or something like that.
Don't bother. She's not coming back. She rather live in an echo chamber with her "expert" friend.

My guess is she'll relay these kind of comments about him to him and he'll laugh thinking he's better than the "keyboard warriors".
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