Herps you don't think should be kept as pets?

[red ink]

A licensing system for ALL reptiles isn't that bad... we still survive.

On an interesting point... there's an addendum added to our license requirements. We are legally bound to keep any reptile we purchase on license for 6 months.

Why would this be of any interest?

I sold one of my geckos to a kid last Saturday... guess which gecko appeared in an advert fro a $100 more than they paid on Sunday night?

The kid has now been caught out on it and no one would deal with him from now on for "flipping" once it got out on one of the forums that he did that. He has since taken the ad down but if a sale did go through from he ad then he would have been liable to have his license stripped and his animals confiscated by the governing body for a breach of his license conditions.

The six month moratorium also stops impulse buying from pet shops... as well as the fact that a pets hop will not sell you a reptile if you are not licensed (pet shops themselves are licensed therefore the care fall under regulatory restrictions - which we can inform the govt. Say... if the BDs don't have a basking light etc etc and they will get a visit from the governing body to check that they are providing the regulatory care, usually results in a fine if found to be in breach). Neither can you legally as a breeder sell to an unlicensed person as all transactions are recorded in a record book and we send a census back to the regulatory body each year off all our trades and transactions plus the exact numbers of animals and species we currently have.

As far as the info of numbers of keepers Vs what the info can be used for by the govt or animal rights activist?

Imagine the lobbying power the shear numbers of reptile keepers can have with the govt if they had cold hard facts of the numbers (not to mention the revenue they could make from licensing fees).

[aaron_cg]

Originally Posted by red ink

A licensing system for ALL reptiles isn't that bad... we still survive.

On an interesting point... there's an addendum added to our license requirements. We are legally bound to keep any reptile we purchase on license for 6 months.

Why would this be of any interest?

I sold one of my geckos to a kid last Saturday... guess which gecko appeared in an advert fro a $100 more than they paid on Sunday night?

The kid has now been caught out on it and no one would deal with him from now on for "flipping" once it got out on one of the forums that he did that. He has since taken the ad down but if a sale did go through from he ad then he would have been liable to have his license stripped and his animals confiscated by the governing body for a breach of his license conditions.

The six month moratorium also stops impulse buying from pet shops... as well as the fact that a pets hop will not sell you a reptile if you are not licensed (pet shops themselves are licensed therefore the care fall under regulatory restrictions - which we can inform the govt. Say... if the BDs don't have a basking light etc etc and they will get a visit from the governing body to check that they are providing the regulatory care, usually results in a fine if found to be in breach). Neither can you legally as a breeder sell to an unlicensed person as all transactions are recorded in a record book and we send a census back to the regulatory body each year off all our trades and transactions plus the exact numbers of animals and species we currently have.

As far as the info of numbers of keepers Vs what the info can be used for by the govt or animal rights activist?

Imagine the lobbying power the shear numbers of reptile keepers can have with the govt if they had cold hard facts of the numbers (not to mention the revenue they could make from licensing fees).

I like this idea, with a few modifications...

For example, I am a partner with my local SPCA as a reptile rescue. I have access to a vet who checks out the animal, and once it is cleared by him, and gets a few meals in him, I rehome them.

Now, I make sure whoever is getting them, understands the care for the animals, and if need be, has the proper permits. In Texas you need a Controlled Exotic Snake Permit to legally own a retic, burm, anaconda, or rock python, as well as any non native hots.

I also warn them that if I see the animal being flipped on Craigslist, I will be able to confiscate the animal. All is legally binding with a contract that I had a lawyer friend make for me. So far, no issues.