Monitor vs. Beardie basking temps?

[formica]

Originally Posted by infernalis

This...

I know a couple people who keep their beardies in monitor enclosures.

The formula also works well for geckos and tropical snakes.

Behaviour changes when well heated, and the majority of keepers freak out when their animals behave naturally.

That's why I seldom post anything at all in the handling and taming threads, Tired of butting heads with people over it.

I don't molest my animals, and I am happy with that.

its funny how polarized these topics get, personally, I think the reality is probably somewhere inbetween the two opinions on the subject, and neither side is entirly correct

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by formica

its funny how polarized these topics get, personally, I think the reality is probably somewhere inbetween the two opinions on the subject, and neither side is entirly correct

Explain to me why? Beardies live in the hottest part of Oz.

[formica]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Explain to me why? Beardies live in the hottest part of Oz.

my reply was specifically to your head butting comment - i'm keeping my opinion and observations to myself on this one lol (well apart from my opinion on finding a balance)

[murrindindi]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Explain to me why? Beardies live in the hottest part of Oz.

Hi Wayne, how active are they during the hottest periods of the day/season, and are all the species living in the hottest parts?
I must say I personally don`t think it hurts to use relatively high surface temps at the basking site, perhaps up to 50c (120f) so long as the animal/s can retreat to cooler places and still achieve "activity" core temps relatively quickly. The problem may be that many (most?) people keep them in relatively small enclosures, often all glass fishtanks, using (at times) relatively high wattage bulbs, the danger being they`ll overheat the animal/s (not recommended)...

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi Wayne, how active are they during the hottest periods of the day/season, and are all the species living in the hottest parts?
I must say I personally don`t think it hurts to use relatively high surface temps at the basking site, perhaps up to 50c (120f) so long as the animal/s can retreat to cooler places and still achieve "activity" core temps relatively quickly. The problem may be that many (most?) people keep them in relatively small enclosures, often all glass fishtanks, using (at times) relatively high wattage bulbs, the danger being they`ll overheat the animal/s (not recommended)...

Every nature film I have ever seen, depicts beardies running around mid day.

[murrindindi]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Every nature film I have ever seen, depicts beardies running around mid day.

How do you know what the temps and time of day were when the animals were filmed, or how long they`d been out and about in the "midday sun" (or if the film has been edited, which is often quite likely)?
Personally, I wouldn`t go out searching for them during the hottest part of the day in the hottest season, at those times you`d have a better chance of seeing them in the morning and later afternoon in my experience.