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[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Corey209

I didn't get any medication because all he had was popping and an occasional open mouth breathing. He was getting a lot better with just heat and humidity but I wasn't checking on him as much because of him being sick and I didn't want to stress him out. I only found a few on him even after soaking so they weren't that bad but there is a possibility I wasn't thorough enough.

You can't tell me though that from the mites and self soaking his RI couldn't have gotten worse.

Never once heard of soaking making RI worse. This would be the first case. Especially if it magically happened within a day!

Your information doesn't add up.

[Corey209]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Never once heard of soaking making RI worse. This would be the first case. Especially if it magically happened within a day!

Your information doesn't add up.

That was just my assumption like I had already said, his RI was getting better he got mites soaked in cold water then his RI had gotten worse.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Corey209

That was just my assumption like I had already said, his RI was getting better he got mites soaked in cold water then his RI had gotten worse.

Yeah, and you passed your assumption off as fact. You're guessing. You failed.

Anyway, you don't have the animal anymore. Let's hope the ball python fares better.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Originally Posted by Corey209

That was just my assumption like I had already said, his RI was getting better he got mites soaked in cold water then his RI had gotten worse.

I'm not gonna say anything about the RI 'cause I don't know, but I have a possibly really stupid question: How was the water cold? I mean, wouldn't the enclosure be warm enough that the water wouldn't be cold?

~Maggot

[CMRetics]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I doubt she does.

Ego check please. You don't know more than every vet, you don't know this vet, so lets kick that before it starts. Internet diagnoses are pretty humorous. doctor. LOL

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I've never heard of water somehow making an RI worse. I want to know where you get your information instead of just assuming things.

You know nothing about RI's. Did you get a culture done to see if it was bacterial or viral? Did you then get medication that was specific to that?

You're wrong about RI's. They can and DO go away. You're making excuses for your shoddy keeping.

You're sitting here telling people about RI, but then you list cultures done for 2 types of RI. If you knew so much you would have suggested fungal as well. Careful before attacking someone on their lack of RI knowledge.

Originally Posted by Corey209

The snake was almost completely good after one month of heat and humidity. He had a little mucus in his mouth but RI never fully clears up it always leaves the snake at a higher risk of getting it again (I'm not arguing about this, talk to a reptile specialist...). So I think which I am assuming is that when he got the mites he stressed out which does weaken the immune system and he was soaking in his water dish which could have easily cooled his temps down a lot making his RI worse. The ex-vet I know did work with reptiles by the way.

Mites + cold water will make an R.I. worse, especially if it hasn't cleared up fully, it's very easy to regress. If it's a viral RI you're pretty much stuck and every little thing can bring it back on, if it's a really set in bacterial one- antibiotics are sometimes needed to help finish it off, or else it will stick around.

Next time, move him into a small shoebox style container with paper towel as bedding, heat the whole box up, keep humidity high and treat the mites, but deny him a tub big enough to soak in. He's soaking to get rid of mites, which you can kill easily, if he's soaking after that, his humidity is too low.

Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

I'm not gonna say anything about the RI 'cause I don't know, but I have a possibly really stupid question: How was the water cold? I mean, wouldn't the enclosure be warm enough that the water wouldn't be cold?

~Maggot

Water is naturally cooler than air, and if placed away from the heating element, its easy for it to be too cold.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by CMRetics

Ego check please. You don't know more than every vet, you don't know this vet, so lets kick that before it starts. Internet diagnoses are pretty humorous. doctor. LOL


You're sitting here telling people about RI, but then you list cultures done for 2 types of RI. If you knew so much you would have suggested fungal as well. Careful before attacking someone on their lack of RI knowledge.


Mites + cold water will make an R.I. worse, especially if it hasn't cleared up fully, it's very easy to regress. If it's a viral RI you're pretty much stuck and every little thing can bring it back on, if it's a really set in bacterial one- antibiotics are sometimes needed to help finish it off, or else it will stick around.

Next time, move him into a small shoebox style container with paper towel as bedding, heat the whole box up, keep humidity high and treat the mites, but deny him a tub big enough to soak in. He's soaking to get rid of mites, which you can kill easily, if he's soaking after that, his humidity is too low.




Water is naturally cooler than air, and if placed away from the heating element, its easy for it to be too cold.

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[iBaman]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Yay! ******** is back!

Ugh, don't let these guys get to you, CM. Though if i may say, Wayne...why doesn't Korbin get a warning for using the word Douche like I did? and he uses it constantly. I don't care if it's blurred out, it's the principal...

[Corey209]

Originally Posted by CMRetics

Ego check please. You don't know more than every vet, you don't know this vet, so lets kick that before it starts. Internet diagnoses are pretty humorous. doctor. LOL


You're sitting here telling people about RI, but then you list cultures done for 2 types of RI. If you knew so much you would have suggested fungal as well. Careful before attacking someone on their lack of RI knowledge.


Mites + cold water will make an R.I. worse, especially if it hasn't cleared up fully, it's very easy to regress. If it's a viral RI you're pretty much stuck and every little thing can bring it back on, if it's a really set in bacterial one- antibiotics are sometimes needed to help finish it off, or else it will stick around.

Next time, move him into a small shoebox style container with paper towel as bedding, heat the whole box up, keep humidity high and treat the mites, but deny him a tub big enough to soak in. He's soaking to get rid of mites, which you can kill easily, if he's soaking after that, his humidity is too low.




Water is naturally cooler than air, and if placed away from the heating element, its easy for it to be too cold.

Thanks for the advice man, and yeah I assumed that's what caused the RI to get worse, but everyone here seems to think I'm an idiot for assuming so.. And for people to say that water wouldn't be cold is ridiculous.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Corey209

Thanks for the advice man, and yeah I assumed that's what caused the RI to get worse, but everyone here seems to think I'm an idiot for assuming so.. And for people to say that water wouldn't be cold is ridiculous.

The water should be close to whatever your ambient air temperature. It's all about thermal exchange. Have you ever heard of something being at room temperature?

[CMRetics]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

The water should be close to whatever your ambient air temperature. It's all about thermal exchange. Have you ever heard of something being at room temperature?

Depends an extreme amount on where he has the water dish on the temp gradient, and where it is in proximity to the heat element. Moving the dish from 1 side to another can change the temperature more than you would think.