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Old 08-25-12, 03:41 PM   #1
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Yeah it is sad. Wonder why out of nowhere it just happened after having her for so long. Guess I better go what needs to be done .

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Yeah it is sad. Wonder why out of nowhere it just happened after having her for so long. Guess I better go what needs to be done .

i'm thinking a stroke ?

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I never thought of a snake being able to have a stroke, but I guess there's no reason it couldn't. I asked her to close her eyes, hold her hands out and say "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" but all she did was stare at me.
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Against my better judgement I am forced to agree. Crack it upside the head and kill it instantly. No need for it to suffer any further. I would however take the skin and create some sort of hat band or something to that affect. Not that I condone the inocent killing of snakes just for a hat band but if its going to be dead anyway then whats the problem.
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Against my better judgement I am forced to agree. Crack it upside the head and kill it instantly. No need for it to suffer any further. I would however take the skin and create some sort of hat band or something to that affect. Not that I condone the inocent killing of snakes just for a hat band but if its going to be dead anyway then whats the problem.
Oh trust me nothing will go to waste. I will cook the meat and tan the skin. May even try to save the skeleton. Guess you haven't seen my work. http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/membe...my-thread.html
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Old 08-26-12, 06:17 AM   #6
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Randy i would NOT eat the meat of any sick animal,but thats just me mate

the rest of your idea's regards the skeleton is a cool idea

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And if you made a trinket like a band or hat you would always remember it.
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Poor baby...she almost looks like a rubber snake...=[
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For some reason I can't pull up the video... But then again from the sounds of it, I don't know if I wanna see it :/
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Yeah I thought about that, but people hunt and eat snakes all the time, and i've never heard to having to look out for anything other than seperating the head and cooking it good. So any issues should be resolved with heat i'd assume. But maybe not plenty of time to figure it out while its' frozen.
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Yeah I thought about that, but people hunt and eat snakes all the time, and i've never heard to having to look out for anything other than seperating the head and cooking it good. So any issues should be resolved with heat i'd assume. But maybe not plenty of time to figure it out while its' frozen.
what if you end up only being able to lye face down

sorry mate i could'nt resist that (my bad)

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Randy, sorry I didn't see this thread earlier...I've been out of commission with an infection from a wisdom tooth extraction. Unfortunately the behavior you described could be IBD/BOID. This virus has been found in crotalids. You need to have the body tested. I'm sorry; it is horrible to lose a pet, but you need to be strong and make sure the rest of your animals will be safe. Until you have the testing done and can confirm that no IBD was present, you need to exercise strict quarantine between every cage- no tools shared between cages before being sterilized in a bleach solution and wear a new pair of rubber gloves for each cage. Best of luck- let's hope it is not anything contagious.
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Randy, sorry I didn't see this thread earlier...I've been out of commission with an infection from a wisdom tooth extraction. Unfortunately the behavior you described could be IBD/BOID. This virus has been found in crotalids. You need to have the body tested. I'm sorry; it is horrible to lose a pet, but you need to be strong and make sure the rest of your animals will be safe. Until you have the testing done and can confirm that no IBD was present, you need to exercise strict quarantine between every cage- no tools shared between cages before being sterilized in a bleach solution and wear a new pair of rubber gloves for each cage. Best of luck- let's hope it is not anything contagious.
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really good info Kimberley

can they still test for IBD if the bodys been frozen ?

i really hope it's NOT IBD Randy (had no idea they could carry it)

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okay randy, you are So weird. lol
Seriously, taxidermy is one thing, but these critters have been your pets and you want to eat them. Bit of a mental weirdness there bro.
Plus, you shouldn't eat animals you know are sick. Mad cow anyone?
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Thanks Kim, I had no idea IBD could be present in them.
Is this a relatively inexpensive IBD test only or full blown necropsy? And as Shaun said did freezing her mess anything up?

None of the others, even the ones she was housed with show any signs, and i will not cross tools with my burm. I just hope the others aren't infected.

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but these critters have been your pets and you want to eat them. .

Plus, you shouldn't eat animals you know are sick. Mad cow anyone?

Hots aren't "pets" remember?

Mad cow? Do you know of a prion that infects snakes? If so please share...
The whole eating thing was more of a quick thought of not wanting to waste anything.

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what if you end up only being able to lye face down

sorry mate i could'nt resist that (my bad)

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