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Originally Posted by stevenrudge
That fine its not for you and you give valid reasons for your stance,but the fact remains that nobody would have any reps if none were ever taken captive in the past,So l find it strange when people start to make a morel stance about exotic captive pets,which we only have because of past W/C caught reps and l'm not talking about established rep species already in abundance in captivity,thats pointless,l'm talking about some species that need a lot more work, like Mangrove Snakes
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Darn right i'm holier than thou.
ANd i wouldn't have reptiles if they'd never been taken out of the wild. that's a sure as the sky is blue.
i wouldn't need to have most of the ones i have, either, if people weren't constantly importing them, breeding them willy nilly, then giving them up and trading them in so they can buy more, or getting tired of them. If they were rare, select, and expensive, than less people would be interested in them, less people would be buying them, and there *would* be a higher liklihood that the ones that did spend the money and time and effort (if it was difficult) to get them, would keep them, and house them in a responsible manner.
Yup i own snakes. No, i do not think think they should be readilly available to anyone. No i do not think they they should be imported at all, and no, i do not think think that 95% of the breeding projects out there are helpful to the species.
Heck yes i'm a hypocrite. I own exotic snakes. Knowing what i do now, however, i do not support the pet trade. I enjoy, love, and take emense pleasure in my snakes.
If someone wants that experience, as it stands now, go to the pound and pick up one.
Until they are more heavily regulated, there will continue to be horrible breeders (and there are a lot of them), bad conditions, animal neglect, abuse, and giving up. Why go catch more WILD snakes, when there are so many sitting around for free, or at bad homes, and people don't even want them anymore?
I still stand on saying if you want a wild caught snake, you are doing it for selfish reasons. Sorry if you don't like to read that, and it's not even derogatory, it's just a fact. The WC support is the one wanting a specific breed or snake. If the WC supporter just wanted a pet, he would go adopt one.