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12-19-11, 05:08 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
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Originally Posted by millertime89
check to make sure the eye caps are still intact on the head piece.
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also always check the tip of the tail has shed properly
i bought a young carpet that lost the tip of its tail due to shed retention with the previous owner
if the last few millimeters of tail retains it can constrict the blood flow and the tip dies
check the shed for mites if you want peace of mind over the whole water bowl scenario norm
glad to see all the worry was over nothing mate
all the besat shaun
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12-19-11, 07:36 PM
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Cold Blooded Chaos
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
Yep, no mites and the tail is intact. Came off perfectly inside out all but the head which was actually over the rest of the skin. No mites either so we're ok. Just gotta get him to eat now. If he doesn't eat the rat pups I have I'll start worrying again but at least for now I'm stress free as far as jungle boy goes.
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12-19-11, 08:57 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
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Originally Posted by Norm66
How many days does it take from blue to shed for Jerome? 5 days. Woohoo!
And now this is the first time I've ever seen him use the inside of his hide. Maybe he's cold after losing a layer of skin. hehehehe
I'm thinking give him today by himself and try feeding again tomorrow. Sound good?
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most my carpets sit up their hot end,in 1 of their hides for anything up a week after a shed,some do it longer
cheers shaun
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12-19-11, 09:12 PM
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Cold Blooded Chaos
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
He actually came out a while ago sitting on top of the he and showing sins e migh climb up on his perch. Man does he look good. I though he looked pretty before but wow. It's good to see him acting more normal.
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12-20-11, 02:30 PM
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
if he doesn't take f/t it might be worth it to offer him live just to get him started.
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12-20-11, 05:22 PM
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Cold Blooded Chaos
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
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Originally Posted by millertime89
if he doesn't take f/t it might be worth it to offer him live just to get him started.
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Yea, the only thing that kept me from doing that before the whole water bowl thing started was finding appropriately sized rats live. I could get mice no problem but carpets are notorious for not switching from mice to rats and if he's really eating rats I don't want to screw that up.
I'll report later how it goes. I'm going to wait til later in the evening and try it with the lights off.
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12-20-11, 07:57 PM
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Cold Blooded Chaos
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
Failed to feed again. He just doesn't seem to recognize f/t rat pups as food. I accidentally touched him slightly and he struck but it was defensive not a feein response IMO.
I might just try live mice next time. I'll get a small one and if he takes it I'll try getting a rat pup in before he realizes it. Maybe he'll associat rats with food then. Maybe.
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12-21-11, 11:44 AM
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
maybe try a TINY fuzzy rat, see if its a fur issue.
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12-21-11, 12:54 PM
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Cold Blooded Chaos
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
I tried a rat pink before. I have some still I could try but I'm really thinking he either doesn't eat rats or doesn't eat pre-killed. I really don't want to have a live eating snake but I want him to eat..
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12-21-11, 12:58 PM
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
Wait him out.. It takes a while for them to take F/T sometimes but when they get hungry enough they will. ALso this time of the year throws a lot of snakes off feed. As long as he is healthy looking don't sweat it.
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01-06-12, 10:18 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
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Originally Posted by Gungirl
Wait him out.. It takes a while for them to take F/T sometimes but when they get hungry enough they will. ALso this time of the year throws a lot of snakes off feed. As long as he is healthy looking don't sweat it.
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took me 10 month to get a the copper coloured jag to eat when she was a hatchling
it took me 6 months to switch a young carpet over to rats,scenting the rat pink with burst open mouse blood and gits
i used to heat the rat and the mouse with a hairdryer
burst the mouse and rub stinky blood and guts over the rat
if i rember correctly i had to aso brain the rat
then give the head an extraheatwith a hairdryer
i've known folk to sew chicks heads onto rats bodys to switch adult carpets over,from chicks to rats
patients and perciverance is the key mate
you get it o take 1 mouse and your right backat the start,imo learning the snake if it waits you out,you'll give it mice
some of mine go of their food during shed,somtimes after a shed,or sometimes through both,during and after
having never missed a feed,my irian jag just stopped eating after a shed,it took him 8 weeks to go bask to his normal feeding routine
carpets can be wierd snakes mate,imo part of what makes me love watching their behavoir in their tanks
i hope he feeds soon mate
giving the head of the prey a little extra heat,sometimes gets a feeding response
please let us know how it goes
cheers shaun
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01-09-12, 06:59 AM
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Cold Blooded Chaos
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
We're going to feed this week. I need to decide whether to put the PAM treated bark back in first or feed first and two days later put the bark back in. I'm leaning towards feeding tonight and seeing if our treatment is working on the mites before we use the PAM. So far no mites since last Sunday (8 days).
He'll get a rat pup with some chicken broth rubbed on it. I'm hoping living in a tub for a couple weeks will have gotten him ready to eat. Willow (Kim) gave me some additional ideas that seem to be chilling him out some so maybe he'll relax and eat. My fingers are crossed.
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01-09-12, 12:34 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
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Originally Posted by Norm66
We're going to feed this week. I need to decide whether to put the PAM treated bark back in first or feed first and two days later put the bark back in. I'm leaning towards feeding tonight and seeing if our treatment is working on the mites before we use the PAM. So far no mites since last Sunday (8 days).
He'll get a rat pup with some chicken broth rubbed on it. I'm hoping living in a tub for a couple weeks will have gotten him ready to eat. Willow (Kim) gave me some additional ideas that seem to be chilling him out some so maybe he'll relax and eat. My fingers are crossed.
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let us know how it goes mate
i'll have my fingers crossed for you
cheers shaun
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01-09-12, 07:47 PM
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Cold Blooded Chaos
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
Nothing. Doggone it.
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01-09-12, 07:53 PM
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The Mad Scot
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Re: Pre-shed soaking?
There's always next time man ;-)
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