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Old 10-23-11, 05:50 PM   #76
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Re: pics of my dead corn... ideas?

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I had a look at the chart. i'd say these were closer to fuzzy than pinky. every bit of an inch and probably a touch over. Gonna try and review the whole situation, see if anyone has any ideas. Fred took about 20 minutes before he actually went after his mouse. The other 2 went straight after their's. There was a rough spot on top of his head, sort of like a scab, about 3 mm long and 2 mm wide. I don't know if I mentioned it before, but a couple of times before he went for his mouse he had his mouth open wide, like he was yawning. Don't know if that's significant or not. Once he grabbed his mouse, it took him probably about 30 minutes to get it all the way into his mouth. The mouse was frozen, well thawed and slightly warmed. I looked in my 2 books about corns and didn't see anything under illnesses or anything similar to what he was doing.
Daniel is a little more upset today, he says it's his fault Fred died because "He was my snake and I'm responsible for him". Hard to explain to a 7 year old boy that some things are beyond his control and even when he does his best, things happen.

aw poor kid. He sounds so sweet,
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Old 10-23-11, 05:53 PM   #77
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Re: pics of my dead corn... ideas?

Havent lookedat the chart but i have seen many many pinkies over an inch long, i wouldnt class them as fuzzies until they aree showing fur no matter their size.
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Old 10-23-11, 11:54 PM   #78
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Re: pics of my dead corn... ideas?

Side question: How would the petstore be held liable for someone feeding a pet food that's too large for the pet to consume in a healthy manner? I don't really think that's true. I mean, not trying to sound rude, but unless you brought the snake into their store and they are the ones that fed it physically, there's nothing to hold them liable for. They just sold the food. Technically then anyone buying anything there could sue them for their dog being over-fed, or something like that.
I'm sorry it happened though.
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Side question: How would the petstore be held liable for someone feeding a pet food that's too large for the pet to consume in a healthy manner? I don't really think that's true. I mean, not trying to sound rude, but unless you brought the snake into their store and they are the ones that fed it physically, there's nothing to hold them liable for. They just sold the food. Technically then anyone buying anything there could sue them for their dog being over-fed, or something like that.
I'm sorry it happened though.
if you walked in and said "I want to buy a pinkie mouse for my snake" and they sold you a rat fuzzie that's clearly too large, they are the "experts" and can be held liable. They "should" know what the difference is and pet owners often go to them for advice.
edit: or say you walked in and told them "my vet told me to get cat food for a diabetic cat" and they hand you a bag of food that does the opposite of what it should, and your cat dies as a result of the change, then its their fault.
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Old 10-24-11, 12:17 AM   #80
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I politely disagree. : ) They're just petstore workers. I'd look it up online, or get the item i needed from my vet. I know hubby and I researched a long time before getting out first snake. I'd take advice from anyone with a grain of salt, even if they had a PHD or something though *lol*

Hey another side note...I remember this post from the other day...

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicr...-sad-news.html

Snakesitter also noticed a patch of something on their snakes head, and turns out their snake had a RI. Maybe it's some kind of weird infection thing.

edited: I mean also if my needed diabetic food, i mean, i can read labels! LOL plus the vet would tell you. But I digress..the store shouldn't be selling people rat pinkies if they're asking for mouse pinkies, but i mean, you can see the size difference. Think how many lawsuits would be out there (we Americans are famous for that though) if someone sued every time a mistake was made. I mean you're not just going to blindly feed your kid whatever the grocer tells you to. I don't think a snake death because of food size would hold up in court.

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Ahhhh. But were not talking about court. Were are talking about him going into the pet store at the busiest time of the week( like Saturday afternoon) and raising such a ruckus that EVERYONE hears about these idiots that killed his poor 7 year old sons snake. Way better results than court.
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I am point to the pet store workers as idiots.
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Ahhhh. But were not talking about court. Were are talking about him going into the pet store at the busiest time of the week( like Saturday afternoon) and raising such a ruckus that EVERYONE hears about these idiots that killed his poor 7 year old sons snake. Way better results than court.

Except for the size of the food isn't what killed the snake!
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I get that. But most pet store workers are high-school kids and the management is not very knowledgeable. So if you raise enough of a commotion the will probably do something. All he has to do is what the tabloids do. Tell people that what you are telling them is the truth. We LIKE to beloved what we are told.
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But what do you expect? They are people making minimum wage, not paid to care. Some will care and be knowledgeable and some won't. It truly is buyer beware! You need to be educated on your animals and their requirements and needs. Don't trust some kid who doesn't give a rats @$$. I mean if the pet stores were legally responsible for everything they said or sold to a customer, they would spend all day everyday in court.
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Re: pics of my dead corn... ideas?

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"did you perhaps mean rat pinkies? which are more correctly called pups?"
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"But was it a mouse pinkie or rat pup? Both are pinks and hairless"
Lol.
More bad info.
A rat pink IS NOT more commonly called a pup.
A rat pink is called a rat pink (~3-7g).
A rat PUP is larger than a fuzzy rat (~8-14g).
Rat pups are in the ~15-20g range right before hopper and have plenty of fur.

I know I'm late to this thread, but that snake died because it was fed too large a meal.
I'm also really curious why so many of you are trying to hold the store responsible for selling a food item that was too large?
That feeder item was clearly way too large for that corn, but the owner is 100% responsible for FEEDING IT!!
Come on people, lets call a spade a spade!
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Lol.
More bad info.
A rat pink IS NOT more commonly called a pup.
A rat pink is called a rat pink (~3-7g).
A rat PUP is larger than a fuzzy rat (~8-14g).
Rat pups are in the ~15-20g range right before hopper and have plenty of fur.

I know I'm late to this thread, but that snake died because it was fed too large a meal.
I'm also really curious why so many of you are trying to hold the store responsible for selling a food item that was too large?
That feeder item was clearly way too large for that corn, but the owner is 100% responsible for FEEDING IT!!
Come on people, lets call a spade a spade!
I've been told differently several times on this very forum regarding the pup vs. pink thing.
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Also late on this buy Mkyee sumed it up. The one at fault is the owner for feeding WAY to large of a prey item, not insulting you I'm just not going to dodge the truth. Yes it's crapy what happens but by blaming others is ridicules. A rat pink is definitely not a pup, a simple web search will prove that fact.

Sorry for your lost, be more alert while feeding.
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I've been told differently several times on this very forum regarding the pup vs. pink thing.
You have been misinformed, possibly over on the other side of the ocean they are listed differently. Canada/US, a rat pink is 1-5 days and pups are 15-20
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Re: pics of my dead corn... ideas?

I still think the store people should do a better job sorting stuff... because some people just dont know
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