Copperhead racers

[infernalis]

Even my little garter snakes have a Duvernoy's gland and produce minuscule amounts of "three finger toxins"

[sickvenom]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Even my little garter snakes have a Duvernoy's gland and produce minuscule amounts of "three finger toxins"

i guess i have an issue with this 'dr' inferring that 3ftx are on the same level as other venomous snakes. just because a snake can produce toxins, should it be classified as a venomous snake? there's a reason why your garters aren't called 'venomous.'

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by sickvenom

there's a reason why your garters aren't called 'venomous.'

Correct. They are quite harmless, I let them chew on me when I get bit, and all I ever do is bleed a little.

I have heard of but cannot confirm the accuracy, that some people have had "adverse reactions" to a Thamnophis bite.

[sickvenom]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Correct. They are quite harmless, I let them chew on me when I get bit, and all I ever do is bleed a little.

I have heard of but cannot confirm the accuracy, that some people have had "adverse reactions" to a Thamnophis bite.

that could just be a reaction to bacteria. i do find these studies fascinating and hope they continue. there's so much we are still learning.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by sickvenom

that could just be a reaction to bacteria. i do find these studies fascinating and hope they continue. there's so much we are still learning.

Yes we are.

Would you believe that I was raised to fear the "Spotted adder", for years I truly thought that an Eastern Milk snake (Lampropeltis Triangulum Triangulum) was a species of snake that could make you sick with it's bite.

That bad information had been passed down over 3 generations, and I only wish I could show my mother (R.I.P.) that they are harmless and my female "Carmella" is one of the most docile pet snakes I have ever had the pleasure of caring for.

Keeping an open mind is essential if one is to learn.

[sickvenom]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Yes we are.

Would you believe that I was raised to fear the "Spotted adder", for years I truly thought that an Eastern Milk snake (Lampropeltis Triangulum Triangulum) was a species of snake that could make you sick with it's bite.

That bad information had been passed down over 3 generations, and I only wish I could show my mother (R.I.P.) that they are harmless and my female "Carmella" is one of the most docile pet snakes I have ever had the pleasure of caring for.

Keeping an open mind is essential if one is to learn.

once people learn hogs are venomous, they get scared and most don't bother to learn about them. they just think venom - cobra has venom, hognose has venom, rattlesnake has venom.