The yellow rat snake that may enjoy some human contact.

[smy_749]

Good posts doberman. Though I believe science has far more 'leeway' in these matters, I'll agree philosophy and thinking outside the box due play a roll and have helped make important discoveries. Though it still returns back to science to confirm those theories. As for the present, I'll stick to my opinion that they don't feel as we feel, but like I said quite a few times in this thread, science isn't static, and if in the future the evidence is in favor of the other side, then great. (aside from the guilt trip of neglecting all my snakes who wanted to cuddle and watch lord of the rings marathons and I left them in their cages LOL)