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Old 10-05-04, 11:26 AM   #91
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If you go with pre-killed exclusively, have a healthy dose of panacur available to de-worm your snakes every year. LOL!
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Old 10-05-04, 12:52 PM   #92
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Ken, if you choose to jump into the line of fire regarding my last post, feel free, however, most of it was not even directed at you.
Instead of trying to 'solve the injustices' of snakes with your loud and often rude responses, let it go. (something that I have not yet learned to do, shown by the very fact that I went against my better judgement by responding to this originally interesting thread). You and I will never agree on feeding techniques, but there really is no need to go G.I. Joe over it. Relax. Regardless of what is said on these Forums, I like you, I respect the fact that you sometimes get so passionate about "debating" a topic, that it clouds your better judgement. I do the same occasionally, but make no qualms about it, I disagree with the way you are trying to get your point across. You're not going to change the world. Period. People make mistakes and the 'rules' of snakes are not as black and white as you wish they were.

Little story, when I first got into snakes a few years ago, I had a snake on order from a big ball breeder, and a week or so before it shipped, I asked what it was eating. He mentioned that it was eating live rats. I stated my disgust with this practice and almost cancelled my order on the spot. I've grown up since. As you get more experienced, there are things you figure out, that are contrary to popular opinion: 1. Ball pythons CANNOT take adult mice right out of the egg. FACT. 2. 1500g is the smallest a female BP can be to successfully breed. WRONG. 3. Feed your adult ball no more often than once every 7-10 days. WRONG. 4. Only feed f/t or f/k. WRONG. 5. Adult balls need underbed rubbermaids to be comfortable and breed properly. WRONG. You live, you learn. You adapt to your balls, and stop being so militaristic concerning them. Be content in the fact that you are taking the best possible care of YOUR animals and don't worry about what other people are doing.
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Old 10-05-04, 01:49 PM   #93
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Good points. I'm through getting into "G.I. Joe" mode anyway. You're right, it's not the way to get my point across.
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Old 10-05-04, 07:08 PM   #94
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Great post Mykee!

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1. Ball pythons CANNOT take adult mice right out of the egg. FACT.
But are you sure about that? Maybe I should video tape it next year for proof, because I have 27 baby Ball Pythons that would have proved that statement wrong. The others were on rat crawlers for their first meals. Not all baby Balls are born big enough, but to say that ALL aren't, is also incorrect.
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Old 10-05-04, 07:54 PM   #95
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Yep i feed FT and fed live but i WATCHED ppl like you probably own pittbulls or rotts and make the breed bad as well, this makes me sick and not afraid to say so, there is a saying, "idiots shouldn't be allowed to breed" should of put your snake down hope it gets infected and you go through hell like it did, hope hell for you never ends.
Wow. I am assuming you just didn’t read through the rest of the post before making that statement… hope you realize that I am doing everything that I can to help save the snake and ease its pain (with medication). I did not intend for this to have happen in the first place.

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i WATCHED ppl like you probably own pittbulls or rotts and make the breed bad as well
No I do not own a dog of any sort. I am not sure where you are getting at comparing me to a “pittbulls or rotts” owner. I had thought I was being a good owner by feeding the snake regularly, supplying it with water at all times and keeping it warm. The snake seemed healthy and happy, showed no aggression or fear what so ever when I had handled it. I just had absolutely no ideal what so ever that it was possible for this to have even happen! When I saw the snake the morning of when this had all happened it took me several seconds to figure out how the snake obtain its injury. I couldn’t even comprehend that the rat was even capable of chewing through the snake’s skin! I feel incredibly bad for letting this happen, but I feel as though I can make it up to the snake by getting it through all of this and allowing it to live great life for many years to come.

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hope it gets infected
That pretty F***** UP! I hope you didn't mean that.
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Old 10-05-04, 07:57 PM   #96
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Hexis, I think you are doing great in seeking vet attention and advice from peers

A hard lesson learned, but it's over and done with now. Hope your snake does get better very soon

Take care

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Old 10-06-04, 12:09 AM   #97
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Holy crap. I cant believe how crazy this thread became!
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Old 10-06-04, 04:53 AM   #98
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Of you can't say anythin nice than don't say anything at all. You can be critical with out being sarcastic or out right nasty. I'm talking about wishing harm on his snake. If coments like that keep up this thread will be closed. So there it is, no flaming or we'll close the thread.
This thread has a lot of educational potential so let's not let it get out of hand.
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