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Old 01-11-05, 12:02 AM   #16
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Oh... I re-read one of your original posts.... if both of your animals are local... then a re-release for the frog isn't such a bad thing.. so long as you release him in the same place you found him. In this case then... the large rubbermaid housing for the frog is the best and cheapest solution until you release him.
Congrats on helping that salamander get back on its feet (no pun intended).
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Oh and btw, I don't feed them in their tank. I remove them, placing them each in a large plastic terrarium with crickets.

Example: today I fed my salamander 9 4 week old crickets. after he was fed, I removed him, put him back and then put the frog in. He ate 4 smaller 4 week old crickets. Neither seems to be stressed if you look at their eating habits. I wonder if the Salamander has been somewhat "programmed" and knows that feeding is in the other tank only?? I let them eat their fills.
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I had a smaller tiger salamander eat a large green treefrog once a few years back.
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I hope it doesn't happen, but both the frog and the Salamander are from the area around Edmonton, so I am assuming that the frog is natural prey for the Salamander and will not be toxic if ingested. Either way, they've both been togerther for this long, and they're ok, so heres to the best LOL
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I hope it doesn't happen, but both the frog and the Salamander are from the area around Edmonton, so I am assuming that the frog is natural prey for the Salamander and will not be toxic if ingested.
Being from the same region would make it more likely that the prey has methods of defense against depredation from local predators...
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I hope it doesn't happen, but both the frog and the Salamander are from the area around Edmonton, so I am assuming that the frog is natural prey for the Salamander and will not be toxic if ingested. Either way, they've both been togerther for this long, and they're ok, so heres to the best LOL
This is exactly the WRONG mentality to take. You are setting an incredibly bad example for the other keepers. Your logic is nonseniscal. By your logic, a cocaine addict might as well keep snorting coke... because hey.. they haven't died yet.. so here's to the best right????????

Congrats.... you amphibs are now on death row.

There is no good reason why these animals should be housed together...especially by a novice keeper in a tank that small. It all comes down to selfishness I guess. And your whole container feeding idea makes little sense for these animals. A tiger will snap at somethng moving past its face regardless of whether or not it was fed in a kritter keeper the day before.

Don't come crying back here when the frog is eaten, and the salamander is toxed out by eating the frog.

We have given you sound advice.. and now you have chosen to ignore it. It is a shame that some wild animals have to die because of it.

And for the other forum members... I apologize for my harshness, but things like this really fire me up.
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And for the other forum members... I apologize for my harshness, but things like this really fire me up.
I can appreciate your harshness. Although it may seem unwarranted to some, I think you're reacting to every poor husbandry situation that you've been privy to, not just this one. It's easy to react harshly when you've seen the results... No need to apologize to the members.
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I had a smaller tiger salamander eat a large green treefrog once a few years back.
Take it from someone who has actually experienced the worst case scenario as in the quote above.

To those of you who think it won't happen to you... IT WILL...
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