Feeding tank or not?

[spots]

Just a question to see what there's a majority of.
Just wondering how many people use a feeding tank for their snakes?

I use a feeding tank for my BP, In the hope that it will not allow my spots to be aggressive in his own home. Reason is my 5 1/2 year old daughter likes to get him out of his viv. (But only when I'm standing there.)

Thanks for all those who participate
Jimi

[stephanbakir]

I've bred and worked with everything from corns to retics and hots, ever once used a feeding tank, some of those snakes have been the most tolerant snakes in the world, some have been the nastiest.
No one I know uses a feeding tank.

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

I've bred and worked with everything from corns to retics and hots, ever once used a feeding tank, some of those snakes have been the most tolerant snakes in the world, some have been the nastiest.
No one I know uses a feeding tank.

Ditto, Feeding tanks have nothing to do with a snake being aggressive or not.

[spots]

so what your say is if I all ready have a good tempered snake then I can just feed him in his viv? I guess even if he wasn't good tempered lol
the problem is every where you look there's so many different opinions.
I have read books saying to use them, I have also read books saying not to! Same with web information.

So now I don't know what to do

[Strutter769]

I have the same question, actually! The two feedings my new BRBhas had since bringing her home have been in a separate tub. I've read where people put prey on a plate to avoid ingestion of substrate, and the snake now reacts to the plate. Thought about trying that but her 10gal. is pretty restrictive.

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by strutter769

I have the same question, actually! The two feedings my new BRBhas had since bringing her home have been in a separate tub. I've read where people put prey on a plate to avoid ingestion of substrate, and the snake now reacts to the plate. Thought about trying that but her 10gal. is pretty restrictive.

I fold a paper towel and out a pinkie or a fuzzie on it to feed some of my smaller snakes.

[stephanbakir]

Plates are fantastic, the only reason I don't use them for retics is because the sight of the plate sets them off on a feed mode, and I can't guarantee that when I do an educational show with them that there won't be a plate in the room.

[spots]

[QUOTE=stephanbakir;639914]Plates are fantastic, the only reason I don't use them for retics is because the sight of the plate sets them off on a feed mode, and I can't guarantee that when I do an educational show with them that there won't be a plate in the room.[/QUOT

Well that's the idea i have heard about feeding in the viv, that every time you open the viv your snake will be thinking feeding time, and bam by accident you get bit.

So in conclusion I think I will stick to separate feed tub/tank.

[stephanbakir]

[quote=spots;639918]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Plates are fantastic, the only reason I don't use them for retics is because the sight of the plate sets them off on a feed mode, and I can't guarantee that when I do an educational show with them that there won't be a plate in the room.[/QUOT

Well that's the idea i have heard about feeding in the viv, that every time you open the viv your snake will be thinking feeding time, and bam by accident you get bit.

So in conclusion I think I will stick to separate feed tub/tank.

I may have explained that wrong, when I want to feed a snake, I just feed it, when I want to take it out, i break the feed response with hook training. The argument you made was "opening the viv will set off feed mode and get me bitten" the counter to that is "opening the viv and taking the snake out could set off a feed mode and get me bitten"

Learn to hook train your animals and you will never get feed response bitten again, the only 2 bite types left are aggressive (rare) and defensive (common, but often misunderstood and called aggressive)

[Lankyrob]

[quote=spots;639918]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

Plates are fantastic, the only reason I don't use them for retics is because the sight of the plate sets them off on a feed mode, and I can't guarantee that when I do an educational show with them that there won't be a plate in the room.[/QUOT

Well that's the idea i have heard about feeding in the viv, that every time you open the viv your snake will be thinking feeding time, and bam by accident you get bit.

So in conclusion I think I will stick to separate feed tub/tank.

This "logic" is illogical. PLease read on

If you feed in the viv then ecerytime you open the viv the snake will think it is being fed and will be "aggressive"

If you feed in a tub then everytime you take the snake out of the viv it will think that it is being fed and be "aggressive"

The arguments cancel each other out.

What you need is a good routine, i use a plate, with no plate in my hand i can open any of my snakes viv (bar my psycho JCP) stick my hand in, and either spot clean or pick up the snake with NO ISSUES at all.

If i have a plate in my hand or have put a plate into the viv in preparation then all my snakes will be in feed mode and i will get bitten if i start poking around.

As long as i havent handled food prior to putting my hand in (i always rinse my hands first) and htere is no plate then i have no risk of biting.

[shaunyboy]

Well that's the idea i have heard about feeding in the viv, that every time you open the viv your snake will be thinking feeding time, and bam by accident you get bit.

So in conclusion I think I will stick to separate feed tub/tank.

if you apply the same logic to taking them out the tank,then surely everytime you take them out they would think its feeding time and bite ?

it always amazes me how folk only apply the logic to one part of the feeding scenario

1.feeding in tank = associating door opening with feeding,so bites everytime door opens

2.taking out the tank = associating taking out with feeding so bites everytime you take it out

imo it makes NO difference where you feed your snake as to whether it bites or not

cheers shaun

[spots]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

if you apply the same logic to taking them out the tank,then surely everytime you take them out they would think its feeding time and bite ?

it always amazes me how folk only apply the logic to one part of the feeding scenario

1.feeding in tank = associating door opening with feeding,so bites everytime door opens

2.taking out the tank = associating taking out with feeding so bites everytime you take it out

imo it makes NO difference where you feed your snake as to whether it bites or not

cheers shaun

Thanks Shaun

So I assume you feed in viv?That is very true i never thought of it the other way like that.

[Nismo89]

Snakebytes tv actually did an experiment where they fed some in the enclosure and some in a different container and it doesn't really matter. If you think about it in the mindset of "if I feed in the cage it will think when I open it means feeding time" then wouldn't the same go for feeding out of the cage because when it is put that way then that would mean that when you pick the snake up and move it it thinks its feeding time. If that were the case I'd rather my snake be bitey before I grab it then once its in my hand it thinks food and wants to bite. Do you get what I'm saying? Oh and I feed both my BP and BRB in their enclosure and both are tame as can be. Even when I open the cage and they can see the mouse/rat I could still pick them up I just don't try to (why induce stress right before feeding). It's not until the prey is actually in the enclosure that they even care about it at all.

[spots]

I have never been bitten Thanks for clearing that up! My BP is supper tame I think I would have to try really hard to get him to bite me.

[stephanbakir]

The only time I've ever been bitten/struck at by bps was mothers on eggs and lil wee babies lol, even then its rare.