Nile of Sav?

Snip3r · 08-21-03, 02:17 PM

Nile
Sav

Which one would you get?

Amiechann · 08-21-03, 02:23 PM

Sav

Bartman · 08-21-03, 02:32 PM

Nile's are WAAAY to big for me

Bryce Masuk · 08-21-03, 02:38 PM

Niles are among the WORST monitiors you can have I would only get one if it was from a rescue

burmer · 08-21-03, 02:47 PM

Nile gets my vote. I have one some I'm not impartial. They are a handfull though. It's a good monitor if you don't mind having one that you don't interact with much. Mine is taking to handling pretty well these days.

reptilez · 08-21-03, 05:05 PM

Niles (at the Moment) are just too big for me and i dont have the space.

JasonBrennan · 08-21-03, 05:10 PM

I have both, but I think I prefer savannahs...has nothing to do with the size or anything. Savannahs just seem to have more personality (not the right word, but I know what I mean, lol). Having said that I really like my nile as well. With a nile you just have to be prepared for the large size and the LARGE attitude (you will most likely NOT be sitting on the couch watching TV with a pet nile).

If you have never kept monitors before, stay away from niles. If you have only kept a savannah before, think twice before getting a nile. They are just a big handful (but great if you like that sort of thing!)

Linds · 08-21-03, 05:12 PM

Well......none of my favourites are even up there so I voted for a sav. I think Niles will always be a bit too large for my tastes, though they are beautiful.

V.hb · 08-21-03, 06:31 PM

Niles are going to end up the way iguanas have.... worth nothing, no longer appreciated by most people (not saying there arent good owners) but nile temperment is just to much for the average herper.. savs are worlds better.

JasonBrennan · 08-21-03, 08:28 PM

I think the main problem with nile monitors is there incredibly cheap price! Just like the green iguanas, anyone can afford them, they are tiny has hatchlings, and pet stores have NO INTEREST in telling you the truth when you are considering buying one. For someone that does not know better, it is hard to imagine that that cheap, tiny little "lizard", be it the green iguana or the nile monitor, is going to grow up to be huge and have an attitude to match!

I agree that niles are not for everyone. Then agian, neither are retics. You have to have a certian level of dedication to keep such animals.

I tell just about everyone to stay away from niles unless you know what you are getting into. I can't stop anyone from keeping them (and would be a hipocrite if I tried, since I have one myself). Hopefully they will not have the same fate as the iguanas, and if they do, I hope it is not as wide spread and in such huge numbers!!

Steeve B · 08-21-03, 09:05 PM

Apart from the fact that both these species are over exploited, or shod I say carelessly!
I vote for Niloticus, because they are one of the top varanids out there! Very unique in many ways, there nastiness only reflects there will to survive, there patterning and colors are awesome, and there morphologies are more complex then any other varanids! Example; teeth and skull dramatically changes from juveniles to adult more so then any other species, they use there tails in more ways then all other varanids, hunting, even fishing! while defence, climbing and swimming is what most varanids use them for, They are mistakenly considered most aggressive because they have a longer juvenile adolescent phase 3-5 years, after this time most will calm down and becomes much easier to work with, they are spirited and intelligent creatures and formidable predators unlike Exanthematicus witch most often seems clumsy and a little dumb!
In temperament they are the closest you can get to Varius and Komodoensis not bad considering the price difference!
Rgds

Ps. what if Niloticus was the hardest varanids to obtain? Every body who’d want one!
I think we are blessed with the opportunity to learn from this unique specie, I just hope peoples realise this and give them more consideration = better care

V.hb · 08-21-03, 09:08 PM

Steeve interesting on how you said that. If they were costly, they would be alot harder to obtain.

I love niles, they are my second favorite varanid next to albigularus.. However I didnt vote for them as I feel they are definatly not for beginners. Their colors are incredible, and personally i love their attitudes as well.

NewLineReptile · 08-21-03, 09:20 PM

I agree with V.hb.

I have had my time in with Niles and i Also think that they are not for Beginners. #1 They get way bigger then a SAV #2 they will not be as easy to tame as a SAV There is many more reasons

here is one i had a 5.5'

I would say go with a SAV

just my 2 cents

Brandon

Steeve B · 08-21-03, 09:25 PM

I understand Niloticus need lots of dedication, and shod be kept by pssionated keepers. but the question wasent witch is more suitable, it was witch whod you optain?
I favored Niloticus over Exanthematicus, not easy to favor any of my childrens!
cheers

Steeve B · 08-21-03, 10:00 PM

Every negative comment made about Niloticus IV seen, where don by peoples who kept them less then 2 years, not enough time to fully appreciate this specie! All you get from most Nil’s in this short time period is the worst of them, no wonder they have such a bad reputation, years ago I remember thinking very little of these monitors, until a fellow Greg Naclario proved me wrong by simply telling me to hold on to my nasty beast a few more years, it became my tamest monitor.
Before this, 3 Niloticus suffered my misunderstanding; I wish I knew Greg then.
Most peoples by them on impulse, then read bad information on this specie, this ultimately leading to apprehension and one more dead varanids, as I always say its easy to care for something you love, I want peoples to love their Niloticus not nourish deception and hatred.
Rgds