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09-06-07, 08:46 PM
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Corn shaking his tail
I have a corn snake that is about 3 or 4 years old whom I adopted about 2 years ago. I dont handle him much but he usually allows me too as much as a snake will. He doesnt usually just allow me to grab him but once I do he is docile enough, never struck or anything. Lately I noticed a new behavior though. When I reach into his cage, as he is slithering around he starts vibrating his tail. I have read of certain snakes doing this as a defense. The idea is that the tail vibrating against leaf litter mimicks the sound of a rattler's tail. Has anyone experienced their corn doing this? Should I avoid handling him when he does this or should I gently handle him more often to get him more accustomed?
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09-06-07, 11:57 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
I wouldn't shy away from him when he does it.....you'll never get him calmed down that way.
But your right it is a defensive behavior and you should be a little more cautious, though I've found that they usually do it more when startled once you have them out of the cage they are usually fine.
~B~
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09-07-07, 11:16 AM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
yea ive had baby king snakes exhibit this behavior but never a corn. but im sure it is not an uncommon case.
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09-07-07, 01:22 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
All baby colubrids do it (or can) as do many older ones as well. Its strickly defensive as mentioned. "Watch out I'm a big tough snake, don't mess with me!" Its usually all show, but some will strike as well, usually closed mouth strikes though. If you let them get away with it & don't handle them it encourages them to do it more often as they do not like being handled, so if tail shaking etc. prevents handling they will continue their "act". I try to make a point of handling a snake when it acts that way to prevent it from doing so more in the future. Mark
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09-08-07, 01:44 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
its just there way of saying leave me alone but its probably a bluff. my rat snakes used to do that all the time but they never bluffed OUCH!! lol
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10-30-07, 10:57 AM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
My snow always does this but thankfully she is always bluffing .
I agree though I handle her more because of this behavior
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10-30-07, 12:38 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
Many years ago in southern Ontario I went after a baby Garter Snake who went into a coil and strike pose and rattled his tail in the leaves. It DID sound like a rattler and, since there were Mississauga Rattlesnakes in that area, I DID stop to have a second look before I grabbed him so, as a defense, IT WORKS - LOL!
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10-30-07, 01:21 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
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Originally Posted by Dianne
Many years ago in southern Ontario I went after a baby Garter Snake who went into a coil and strike pose and rattled his tail in the leaves. It DID sound like a rattler and, since there were Mississauga Rattlesnakes in that area, I DID stop to have a second look before I grabbed him so, as a defense, IT WORKS - LOL!
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Yep mimicry is a great defense. All those that use tail shaking mimicking rattlers & then there are all the Milks & tricolored kings out there mimicking Coral snakes. Mark
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10-30-07, 01:59 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
My white lip does this all the time. I put it back in it's enclosure and it runs away wiggling it's tail. More in a "This is a worm, be distracted while I run away" fashion.
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10-30-07, 02:24 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
My womas will "wag" there tails when aggitated as well or when feeding sometimes. Females also do it when introduced to a male for breeding. Some snakes will also use their tails as "lures" using them to draw in prey. Mark
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04-18-08, 10:07 AM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
my jungle corn does that all the time then he strikes at me and usually bites me but it doesn't hurt but after i get him outta tha cage he is just fine
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04-18-08, 12:18 PM
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Re: Corn shaking his tail
Defensive instincts & mimicry. "I'm a big tough snake better leave me alone. Hear me rattle my tail I'm dangerous" LOL Mark
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