Ready to take the Morelia plunge

[EL Ziggy]

OK guys, you all have won me over with all the beautiful carpet pics. I'm doing my research now in preparation of making a purchase in the next 30-90 days depending on how long it takes me to win over my better half. Negotiations haven't gone so well lately though. I've decided that a jungle, jag, jungle jag, or IJ are all serious contenders. I like the jungles and jags the most but I'm a little concerned about the neuro issues I've heard and read about with jags. Is this something that I should be worried about? Should I steer clear of jags for this reason? As far as temps and humidity what do you all recommend? Is low to mid 70's on the cool side and 88-92 on the warm side ok? I live in GA and the ambient humidity in my place is about 50%. Is that OK or should it be higher. I've read anything between 50-70% humidity is acceptable. Let me know what you all think. I appreciate any husbandry tips or advice.

[Dilema]

Hi,

Everything sounds fine. I have personally moved on all of my jag, jag crosses and no longer own any purely because of the neuro. Im sure there are lots here that will have nothing but good things to say about them, but as nice as some look they will never make it back into my collection.

Good luck with whatever you choose, a good Cheynei is hard to beat !

[EL Ziggy]

Originally Posted by Dilema

Hi,

Everything sounds fine. I have personally moved on all of my jag, jag crosses and no longer own any purely because of the neuro. Im sure there are lots here that will have nothing but good things to say about them, but as nice as some look they will never make it back into my collection.

Good luck with whatever you choose, a good Cheynei is hard to beat !

Copy that, thanks Dilemna.

[Derek1]

Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

I'm doing my research now in preparation of making a purchase in the next 30-90 days depending on how long it takes me to win over my better half. Negotiations haven't gone so well lately though.

Good luck!

Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

George S. Patton

[BIGT FROM F.B.]

Have you told your girlfriend yet? LOL! Good luck in the process. Marry her if she starts to get used to the idea.

[EL Ziggy]

Originally Posted by BIGT FROM F.B.

Have you told your girlfriend yet? LOL! Good luck in the process. Marry her if she starts to get used to the idea.

Yeah, about that...I thought I was making progress by dropping a few hints here and there trying to get her used to the idea of another critter then last night her evil alter ego comes out VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED to the notion. I didn't press forward, and I didn't concede defeat. I decided to take the stalemate for now and we'll fight that battle another day when the sweet twin comes back. I'll play nice guy for a while . Catch up on the "honey do" list, throw in a date night or two, and make sure she and the baby have a wonderful holiday season. She should soften up by January. Let's hope. Heck, the bribery is more expensive than the snake and a nice new enclosure

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

OK guys, you all have won me over with all the beautiful carpet pics. I'm doing my research now in preparation of making a purchase in the next 30-90 days depending on how long it takes me to win over my better half. Negotiations haven't gone so well lately though. I've decided that a jungle, jag, jungle jag, or IJ are all serious contenders. I like the jungles and jags the most but I'm a little concerned about the neuro issues I've heard and read about with jags. Is this something that I should be worried about? Should I steer clear of jags for this reason? As far as temps and humidity what do you all recommend? Is low to mid 70's on the cool side and 88-92 on the warm side ok? I live in GA and the ambient humidity in my place is about 50%. Is that OK or should it be higher. I've read anything between 50-70% humidity is acceptable. Let me know what you all think. I appreciate any husbandry tips or advice.

70% is a bit high. My carpet pythons have complete sheds at 40% humidity, though I keep them around 50-60% most of the time just because that's where it usually stays(just a water bowl, low ventilation, and no misting).

I have had a few carpets catch RI's with high humidity, never with low humidity.

Ambient temps should be around 80f. Low to mid 70's might be too cool unless you are cooling them in the winter.

[BIGT FROM F.B.]

Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

Yeah, about that...I thought I was making progress by dropping a few hints here and there trying to get her used to the idea of another critter then last night her evil alter ego comes out VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED to the notion. I didn't press forward, and I didn't concede defeat. I decided to take the stalemate for now and we'll fight that battle another day when the sweet twin comes back. I'll play nice guy for a while . Catch up on the "honey do" list, throw in a date night or two, and make sure she and the baby have a wonderful holiday season. She should soften up by January. Let's hope. Heck, the bribery is more expensive than the snake and a nice new enclosure

Yep, unless you're already with a reptile lover, it can be a challenge for sure. Snakes trump purses any day.

[EL Ziggy]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

70% is a bit high. My carpet pythons have complete sheds at 40% humidity, though I keep them around 50-60% most of the time just because that's where it usually stays(just a water bowl, low ventilation, and no misting).

I have had a few carpets catch RI's with high humidity, never with low humidity.

Ambient temps should be around 80f. Low to mid 70's might be too cool unless you are cooling them in the winter.

Thanks Mikoh. How would I keep the ambient temps that high especially during winter? I've been using UTH's as a heat source. Would you suggest a RHP instead?

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

Thanks Mikoh. How would I keep the ambient temps that high especially during winter? I've been using UTH's as a heat source. Would you suggest a RHP instead?

That's what I use. You could use an RHP by itself, but I like to use it in conjunction with uth's.

In the winter I still let temps naturally drop to low to mid 70's(with a hotspot) whether or not I plan to breed my carpets.

[EL Ziggy]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

That's what I use. You could use an RHP by itself, but I like to use it in conjunction with uth's.

In the winter I still let temps naturally drop to low to mid 70's(with a hotspot) whether or not I plan to breed my carpets.

So you like an ambient temp of 80 and a hot spot of ___??

[Mikoh4792]

In the warmer months I will try to keep ambient temps between 80-84F(usually on the lower end) and a give them a hotspot of around 88-92F(usually at 90f). With an ambient of 80F and a hotspot, there will obviously be areas that are 82f, 86f...etc. So my snakes can just move to where they are comfortable.

[EL Ziggy]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

In the warmer months I will try to keep ambient temps between 80-84F(usually on the lower end) and a give them a hotspot of around 88-92F(usually at 90f). With an ambient of 80F and a hotspot, there will obviously be areas that are 82f, 86f...etc. So my snakes can just move to where they are comfortable.

Thanks again Mikoh. I emailed Will Bird to see what he's got available.

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

OK guys, you all have won me over with all the beautiful carpet pics. I'm doing my research now in preparation of making a purchase in the next 30-90 days depending on how long it takes me to win over my better half. Negotiations haven't gone so well lately though. I've decided that a jungle, jag, jungle jag, or IJ are all serious contenders. I like the jungles and jags the most but I'm a little concerned about the neuro issues I've heard and read about with jags. Is this something that I should be worried about? Should I steer clear of jags for this reason? As far as temps and humidity what do you all recommend? Is low to mid 70's on the cool side and 88-92 on the warm side ok? I live in GA and the ambient humidity in my place is about 50%. Is that OK or should it be higher. I've read anything between 50-70% humidity is acceptable. Let me know what you all think. I appreciate any husbandry tips or advice.

cool end high 70's F to low 80's F

hot end a basking spot of roughly 88F to 90F

your room humidity is just fine

i have Jags that show NO signs of neuro issues...

i have had a few that showed slight head wobbles once they got excited over food or nervous over being taken out their tanks

just get the Jag your buying out it's tank and handle it.also put it down on the ground then observe it's movements

any Jag that has severe neuro issues should be left mate

if you have the funds i would try and get my hands on a Gamma bloodline Jag...


imo it's the best looking bloodline in the world


cheers shaun

[EL Ziggy]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

cool end high 70's F to low 80's F

hot end a basking spot of roughly 88F to 90F

your room humidity is just fine

i have Jags that show NO signs of neuro issues...

i have had a few that showed slight head wobbles once they got excited over food or nervous over being taken out their tanks

just get the Jag your buying out it's tank and handle it.also put it down on the ground then observe it's movements

any Jag that has severe neuro issues should be left mate

if you have the funds i would try and get my hands on a Gamma bloodline Jag...


imo it's the best looking bloodline in the world


cheers shaun

Thanks Shaun. I just did a Google search and those Gamma Jags are amazing! A little more than I'd like to spend right now but maybe one day