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Old 01-29-14, 11:03 AM   #1
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salmonella in snakes

I am curious if anyone has any information on what strains of salmonella are commonly found in snakes. If there is any references to these facts I would love to see them.
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Old 01-29-14, 11:45 AM   #2
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I am curious if anyone has any information on what strains of salmonella are commonly found in snakes. If there is any references to these facts I would love to see them.
In general I think salmonella is over-rated. I had a case quite a few years ago. Not fun, but I have had worse ailments.

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The aerobic gram-negative faecal flora of 78 reptiles consisting of 46 species (39 lizards of 23 species, 15 tortoises of 9 species, 24 snakes of 14 species) was studied. Salmonella was found to be present in 50% of lizards, in 16% of tortoises and in 16% of snakes. There were all together 15 different serotypes. Edwardsiella tarda was isolated in 20% of tortoises, in 12% of snakes but only in 3% of lizards. Tortoises represent therefore the possible normal habitat of Edwardsiella tarda. We isolated Arizona specially from snakes as was described by many authors. A new serotype (Arizona 26a, 26b:27 - 21 = S. arizonae 61:Z10:Z35) was found in a rattlesnake. There were found also much amounts of Citrobacter (52%), E. coli (50%), Proteus mirabilis (49%), Proteus morganii (18%), Proteus rettgeri (26%), Proteus vulgaris (32%). Klebsiella and Enterobacter seem to prefere the lizards. The overwhelming majority of the studied bacteria were lactose-negative, corresponding to the inability of reptiles producing lactose. The normal habitat of Salmonellae in reptiles and the high phylogenetic age of reptiles allows the hypothesis that salmonellae could have a similar old age as their host animals, because the ecological niche, i.e. the bowel of reptiles, has not changed for some hundred million years.

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Old 01-29-14, 03:03 PM   #3
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Re: salmonella in snakes

I had it about 5 years ago. Something terrible. Doctor said it is possible to get off of anything. All I know is, I don't want it again. Laying in bed in the middle of the night in the fetal position with stomach cramps. I lost 12 pounds in 1 week, due to um, you know. Even barely eating anything.
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I had it about 5 years ago. Something terrible. Doctor said it is possible to get off of anything. All I know is, I don't want it again. Laying in bed in the middle of the night in the fetal position with stomach cramps. I lost 12 pounds in 1 week, due to um, you know. Even barely eating anything.

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