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07-12-13, 12:46 AM
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Lets try this again...here are my pets
Don't know what happened with that last post but I just thought I would show off what I'm working with. First two pictures is of my variable King snake, Craig, and his enclosure, He is on reptile carpet because he was having respiratory issues with aspen. The next two are of my Mexican Black king snake, Toby. The last two are of my Pacific tree frog, George.
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07-12-13, 12:47 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
Here is George
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07-12-13, 12:54 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
Awesome pets =)
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07-12-13, 12:55 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
Nice enclosures. How old is your MBK? Does he ever bite you when you handle him?
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07-12-13, 12:58 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
Toby is about a year and a half, he used to but with a lot of work he is a lot better.
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07-12-13, 01:06 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
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Originally Posted by slowhite03
Toby is about a year and a half, he used to but with a lot of work he is a lot better.
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Would he bite defensively or as a feeding response? Did you use the hook training method? I have a Cali king about two years old that tries to eat me whenever I'm around
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07-12-13, 01:10 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
defensive, when I first got him he did not want to be touched. I used the hook, I just grab him with the hook every time i take him out.
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07-12-13, 08:05 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
Why the 1970"s husbandry?
Open topped enclosure with carpet for substrate?
I thought we had moved forward from this type of husbandry, granted I haven't been on too many "Hobby" sites for a while but really? People here think these types of set ups for reptiles are acceptable?
This breaks my heart. There have been massive advances in reptile husbandry in the last 20-30 years, why are these highly successful methods rejected by the hobby, are people here really not exposed to the advances in husbandry available? Has this poster ever seen a meat dehydrator? The set ups here are exactly the same, humidity attaches to heat and it rises, robbing the cage inhabitants of their vital needs, leading to gout and early death.
Please upgrade the husbandry to at least the 1990's
Best.
Ben Aller
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07-12-13, 08:11 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
Yea I'm really not a fan of repticarpet....
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07-12-13, 08:20 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
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Originally Posted by B_Aller
Why the 1970"s husbandry?
Open topped enclosure with carpet for substrate?
I thought we had moved forward from this type of husbandry, granted I haven't been on too many "Hobby" sites for a while but really? People here think these types of set ups for reptiles are acceptable?
This breaks my heart. There have been massive advances in reptile husbandry in the last 20-30 years, why are these highly successful methods rejected by the hobby, are people here really not exposed to the advances in husbandry available? Has this poster ever seen a meat dehydrator? The set ups here are exactly the same, humidity attaches to heat and it rises, robbing the cage inhabitants of their vital needs, leading to gout and early death.
Please upgrade the husbandry to at least the 1990's
Best.
Ben Aller
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You said it better than I ever could.
I also find that repticarpet harbours a lot of bacteria and is relatively gross.
To be honest though many people just "do as they want" because their animal looks fine and someone will ALWAYS be just as uninformed and back up any keeper.
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07-12-13, 09:21 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
Can someone point out the problems with the op's husbandry for me please? I thought everything was apropos. I actually liked the setup. I'm not a fan of repticarpet but I didn't think there was anything 'wrong' with this but correct me if I'm mistaken. My kings are set up quite similarly. They're both in 40 gal vivs, both on aspen, have multiple hides, a water dish, uth and a basking light. What's 'outdated' about that? I'm new to the hobby but I thought those were the things along with food, water, and kindness that my snakes needed to thrive. What upgrades/advances should I, and others, be aware of? Please show us what a 'proper' enclosure should look like. TIA
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07-12-13, 09:22 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
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Originally Posted by B_Aller
Why the 1970"s husbandry?
Open topped enclosure with carpet for substrate?
I thought we had moved forward from this type of husbandry, granted I haven't been on too many "Hobby" sites for a while but really? People here think these types of set ups for reptiles are acceptable?
This breaks my heart. There have been massive advances in reptile husbandry in the last 20-30 years, why are these highly successful methods rejected by the hobby, are people here really not exposed to the advances in husbandry available? Has this poster ever seen a meat dehydrator? The set ups here are exactly the same, humidity attaches to heat and it rises, robbing the cage inhabitants of their vital needs, leading to gout and early death.
Please upgrade the husbandry to at least the 1990's
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Ben Aller
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Thanks for the backhanded slap at the forum.
Just so you know he was advised against it. You could Even check his thread history and see where we said it was a bad idea.
@El-Ziggy
His set up will destroy humidity.
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07-12-13, 10:11 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
@El-Ziggy
His set up will destroy humidity.[/QUOTE]
@ Korbin
As I indicated, I have a similar set up and don't want any issues in the future. I didn't think humidity was a big concern for most kings. I've read that they typically need their humidity levels to stay between 40-60% which isn't hard to maintain, especially in a state like GA. I thought a moist hide during shedding was the most they should need. Is this incorrect? Thanks again.
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07-12-13, 10:23 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
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Originally Posted by B_Aller
Why the 1970"s husbandry?
Open topped enclosure with carpet for substrate?
I thought we had moved forward from this type of husbandry, granted I haven't been on too many "Hobby" sites for a while but really? People here think these types of set ups for reptiles are acceptable?
This breaks my heart. There have been massive advances in reptile husbandry in the last 20-30 years, why are these highly successful methods rejected by the hobby, are people here really not exposed to the advances in husbandry available? Has this poster ever seen a meat dehydrator? The set ups here are exactly the same, humidity attaches to heat and it rises, robbing the cage inhabitants of their vital needs, leading to gout and early death.
Please upgrade the husbandry to at least the 1990's
Best.
Ben Aller
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Elitist^^^^
Maybe you could make a few suggestions....
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07-12-13, 10:28 AM
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Re: Lets try this again...here are my pets
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Originally Posted by Amadeus
Elitist^^^^
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Not pandering to the lowest common denominator isn't elitism; it's common sense.
Apparently advice has been given. Why throw good after bad?
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