Venomoid Question

[rapidcityherp]

I also would never de venomize a snake. However I took in a albino monocle cobra that had been devenomized. Due to a change in my city law I need to sell this snake from my collection. I have a cage that is split into to sections so he can be carded for without contact. He has not grown his glands back in the 2 years I have owned him. Cory -605-390-5277 again I did not due this to him I merely took him from a handler that was not feeding him or caring for him right due to fear. I gave him a better home. I am accepting offers of both cash and trades.
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[cheesman]

The species of snake, & its type of venom would determine the answer to your question. The whole thing stresses some snakes more than others, and is sometimes down-right bad for it. For instance if it uses its venom more for killing than digestion (lilke a cobra) itll probably handle being a venomoid better. But if it uses its venom for digestion, I think its very immoral (& dumb, because you probably just killed hundreds of $) to remove its venom. Use discretion, but id opt for either a hot snake, or one that is non-venomous.

[Will0W783]

If I may just chime in, I have a western hognose and a false water cobra yearling. I LOVE my FWC! He is a very alert, curious, docile snake. I do use gloves to remove him from his cage, and intend to use a snake hook when he gets too big to do it with gloves, as he is easily startled, but once he is out he is as cool as my BP and carpets. He is very curious, and looks all around and is fast. Also, hognoses are rear-fanged venomous, so to the person who mentioned having one "but no hots" it IS a hot, just a very mild hot that generally isn't harmful to people. I personally think the FWC is a good way to go because they are unlike anything else, and are a bit feistier than a hognose, so you DO need to be careful of them and handle with care and alertness. Their venom potency is currently unknown, and some people have reported heart palpitations. However, their first defense is hooding and then attempt at escape, so they are less aggressive (generally, from what I've read and my experience with Rogue, my FWC-not a hard, fast rule) than, say, a king cobra or a rattler. I wouldn't recommend handling an unfamiliar FWC without a hook and gloves, and even when "tamed" wearing gloves is always good.

[Aaron_S]

I'm sorry but you do know you basically just told someone it's ok to handle a venomous, however mild and "docile", without really anything more than the normal precautions for any fast moving snake?

Personally, I just think it's best to not do it. Weigh the risk vs. rewards and really, it's not worth it.

[Will0W783]

I guess. I handle him with gloves, but since he really isn't that harmful, I guess I didn't see the need to do more. It came out wrong- thanks for correcting it Aaron! I think it is best for each person to take precautions they see fit. I would never handle a rattler or cobra or viper- I wouldn't keep one because I wouldn't be able to get past the fact that it could kill me. Definitely use gloves and/or a hook and precautions when handling even rear-fanged snakes.

[Will0W783]

Venomous Snakes - False water cobra

There is a good forum with owners talking about their FWCs.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Will0W783

I think it is best for each person to take precautions they see fit.

Not to sound overly rude or anything but this is the mentality that gets people bit. They say "it's just a mangrove snake it won't kill me" or "it's just a rear-fanged snake, it won't kill me." These words were muttered before anyone found out that the boomslang was so deadly.

[ChadRamsey]

i have no other comment but this

[Chu'Wuti]

i have no other comment but this

That settles it completely as far as I'm concerned. Not that I needed any extra persuasion . . .

[siz]

That is ........ awful. >:[ It infuriates me to see that...
Disgusting.

[jparker1167]

even tho i dont care for venomoids and have never had one i have talked to jeremy from venomoid inc a few times, also venom helps with digestions but is not needed they can eat frozen food just fine without injecting venom.

Phonenix you said you dont think venomous should be kept in someones home? is that cause your friend made tons of mistakes that you think no one else is able to keep them safely? keeping two cobras together is a bad idea to begin with cobras eat other snakes. venomous snakes are not fun and games and shouldnt be kept for that reason. how long was he in the hospital? you said he kept av how many viles did he have, who gave him the av? its a very interesting story i would like to hear more about what happend if you have the info about it.

everyone makes mistakes weather its keeping venomous reptiles or keeping large constrictors you have to pay attention and take your time

[SavannahMon!tor]

Ya I went to a reptile show in PA and got to hold a typan and a boomslang it was pretty cool but I kind of felt bad for the snake. its most likely a good idea for people who have children and or have a small house but still want a venomous snake.

[Paul_Begg]

Originally Posted by SavannahMon!tor

Ya I went to a reptile show in PA and got to hold a typan and a boomslang it was pretty cool but I kind of felt bad for the snake. its most likely a good idea for people who have children and or have a small house but still want a venomous snake.

Ok so I admit I haven't posted on this forum in a fair while, but the above quote really got me.
I'd love a venomous snake, but damn my house is too small. No worries I'll get a venomoid.
I went to one "show" and i got to hold a boa. Too bad it wasn't a potential killer.
I'm really at a lose to understand this persons morals on pet keeping, let alone reptile keeping. If people want a "venomous" snake and have children in the same house, then move to the circus. Venomoids arent some cute commodity that is the product of a quick vet visit. The snake will always suffer, no matter what the outcome.
I'm keeping this short, but if anyone fancies a chat feel free to pm me.

Cheers
Paul

[Kmef07]

also there is the problem that also affects skunks that have their scent glands removed. What if they grow back? Dont get something you can't care for!! that is all that needs to be said. if you can't/dont want to take the time to learn how to handle and care for a venomous snake then don't get one. if you don't want a big snake don't get a burm. same thing applies. paul hit the nail on the head don't make the snake suffer because you want something cool.

[Chu'Wuti]

The snake will always suffer, no matter what the outcome.

Agreed!! and welcome back, Paul!