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Hi has anyone tried/used the 'TAURRUS' Biological control of snake mites?
If so can I have your results please,
like your experiences using this natural option,
how effective was it?
Did numbers lessen, did any go Awall?
What set up it was used in & what species?
:O_o:
Any information, input from anyone who has personal experience using this form of mite cure & preventive , I would be very grateful for.
Be it Positive or Negative I need to know as much as possible as soon as.
Cheers :hmm:
Corey209
01-03-13, 11:48 PM
Taurus - Insecticides, acaricides - Crop protection (http://zr2000.com.ua/article352.htm)
"Highly effective contact acaricide against a wide spectrum of grass-feeding mites at all growth stages."
1. Buy reptile relief and provent a mite
2. Put your snake into another container and spray it with reptile relief
3. Spray everything and your enclosure individually with provent a mite (Not the snake)
4. Let everything dry out
5. Put your snake back in it's enclosure
6. Rinse and repeat a week or two later
TAURRUS is not an insecticide! lol
It is natural. Bugs that eat snake mites & larvae ect. Clearing substrate all interior of enclosure plus on snake, under scales too!
Did ask for anyone who has used Taurrus mite control.
I don''t believe chemicals are good in any way :confused: as nature perfected cures to everything & is perfect all the time!
Man made crap is just a poor substitute which causes more problems than it fixes, in the long run & then it's too late. Damage Dopne!
Thank you anyway :)
Corey209
01-04-13, 12:37 AM
TAURRUS is not an insecticide! lol
It is natural. Bugs that eat snake mites & larvae ect. Clearing substrate all interior of enclosure plus on snake, under scales too!
Did ask for anyone who has used Taurrus mite control.
I don''t believe chemicals are good in any way :confused: as nature perfected cures to everything & is perfect all the time!
Man made crap is just a poor substitute which causes more problems than it fixes, in the long run & then it's too late. Damage Dopne!
Thank you anyway :)
If you don't plan on ever using chemicals you might as well go find a hole in the middle of the woods to live in. I can't find a single thing about "TAURRUS" that says it's natural in anyway.
Taurus SC, Taurus Insecticide/Termiticide - Free Shipping (http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/taurus-sc-termiticide-p-1816.html)
HaHaaa Not Surprised at all!!!!!!
Will post picture evidence maybe you'll understand it better?
Doubt it though....
As I asked before would you please read thread & if you can be of any help then post on it, if not why are you wasting time picking points, moaning & contradicting facts just because you know nothing about the subject!
I'm off to my hole in the woods now so GoodBye sheep person? :)
Corey209
01-04-13, 01:09 AM
HaHaaa Not Surprised at all!!!!!!
Will post picture evidence maybe you'll understand it better?
Doubt it though....
As I asked before would you please read thread & if you can be of any help then post on it, if not why are you wasting time picking points, moaning & contradicting facts just because you know nothing about the subject!
I'm off to my hole in the woods now so GoodBye sheep person? :)
What is a "sheep person" and if you can show me whatever magical non-chemical mite killer you're talking about please do.
What is an Organic Chemical? (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-organic-chemical.htm)
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 02:53 AM
I believe she's on about predator mites? Just a guess but some people have used them and had good luck with them..
Lankyrob
01-04-13, 04:40 AM
PLEASE stop posting in weird colours, just use mormal text like everyone else, and being sarcky to members wont be tolerated on this forum.
Seeing as you obviously know so much about this "taurrus" stuff why not post a link so we can check it out?
Right there is a Reptile store in a city not far from where I live. It's a well known one & has the only 'Tai Pan' {is that right?} in UK & Europe I believe. Not even the zoo's have one! They breed rare breeds on breeding programs.
It's name is 'pilbara reptiles' they have a website. Look on there & click on the 'mite control' in menu, there you will see this Taurrus mite control & all details.
Or taurrus antiparasite vivant (http://www.taurrus.com) lol It's the way to go, but all depends on price...
Hope this helps :)
Oh yes Jamie thats the one. :D Thank you your a gent!!!
xx
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 07:31 AM
In which case it is natural with no chemicals.... Think people need to think before telling others they're wrong.
I have heard good things about them but never used them myself (and hopefully will never have to rid my collection of mites again) I went to pilabra just before Christmas to collect a snake from there and I was very impressed with the shop
so now your snakes have mites??? which explains everything lol and will kill ur snakes so find something that works quickly
KORBIN5895
01-04-13, 08:46 AM
Oh yes Jamie thats the one. :D Thank you your a gent!!!
xx
Why are you talking to his Johnson?
Actually these were discussed in another thread and they said they didn't work too hot.
Corey209
01-04-13, 09:01 AM
Right there is a Reptile store in a city not far from where I live. It's a well known one & has the only 'Tai Pan' {is that right?} in UK & Europe I believe. Not even the zoo's have one! They breed rare breeds on breeding programs.
It's name is 'pilbara reptiles' they have a website. Look on there & click on the 'mite control' in menu, there you will see this Taurrus mite control & all details.
Or taurrus antiparasite vivant (http://www.taurrus.com) lol It's the way to go, but all depends on price...
Hope this helps :)
In which case it is natural with no chemicals.... Think people need to think before telling others they're wrong.
TAURRUS isn't even on any trademark registry but they use the symbol showing they are and they just put some snake mites into a container and named it? I used every type of search I could with no luck of finding TAURRUS. If anyone had ever used this I'm sure someone would have spoke about it once or twice. Doesn't seem entirely legit.
so now your snakes have mites??? which explains everything lol and will kill ur snakes so find something that works quickly
Where does it say that the snake that have been left in my house, that i'm trying to sort out from scratch have mites?????
See no reply to thread just guess work & critism!
I know lots about snakes & other reptiles just because i'm new on here doen't mean i'm new to these animals.
I don't kiss nor pinch their cheeks!
Assumptions!!!!!!
I rescue rehabilitate, train & rehome the most dangerous dogs in the UK even court order dogs!!
So far acheiving 100% success record! Does that sound like the girlie girlie type? REALLY!!!!
This forum is PATHETIC!!! Your all more interested in colour of the text than helping the animals you claim to be experienced enthusiasts of!!!
SAD & PATHETIC !!!!!!!!
Corey209
01-04-13, 09:18 AM
Where does it say that the snake that have been left in my house, that i'm trying to sort out from scratch have mites?????
See no reply to thread just guess work & critism!
I know lots about snakes & other reptiles just because i'm new on here doen't mean i'm new to these animals.
I don't kiss nor pinch their cheeks!
Assumptions!!!!!!
I rescue rehabilitate, train & rehome the most dangerous dogs in the UK even court order dogs!!
So far acheiving 100% success record! Does that sound like the girlie girlie type? REALLY!!!!
This forum is PATHETIC!!! Your all more interested in colour of the text than helping the animals you claim to be experienced enthusiasts of!!!
SAD & PATHETIC !!!!!!!!
Your snakes have been having attitude problems correct? She said it explains everything because the mites stressed the hell out of your snakes. She NEVER said anything rude to you so there's no need to say anything rude back. You're an arrogant child in an adults body and need to get off your high horse.
TAURRUS isn't even on any trademark registry but they use the symbol showing they are and they just put some snake mites into a container and named it? I used every type of search I could with no luck of finding TAURRUS. If anyone had ever used this I'm sure someone would have spoke about it once or twice. Doesn't seem entirely legit.
Just because you can't find it, means nothing!
In the wild these bugs are a snakes best friend, what do you think they do huh?????
Go to the shop & spray themselves with toxic mite solutions???
WOW would have thought all you experts & enthusiasts would know all this as a thick useless bitch like me knows more it seems!
You watch your care sheets ok, keep em handy yeh easier to refer top quickly when your trying to humiliate others!!!!!
ok you stated these boas have been mistreated and you "saved" them, now your asking for mite treatment....what is one to think
oh my god, your rude and ignorant go some place else..im sad those snakes went from the boiling pot to a frying pan
I never said these snakes had mites!!!!!!!!
So how can this explain the problem with the one Boa who was in a bad state when he was dumped on me!!!
What is wrong with you??
Yeh me too but according to you who judges my snakes have mites???? They wouldn't give a dam as they have no feelings!
How do they get angry?? WoW lol
infernalis
01-04-13, 09:28 AM
Be it Positive or Negative I need to know as much as possible as soon as.
Cheers :hmm:
The very first post... "Positive or Negative" so why get all upset over the negatives? You gave permission to be negative with your opening post.
If you don't plan on ever using chemicals you might as well go find a hole in the middle of the woods to live in.
Hey now, I live in the middle of the woods. I want my ashes scattered in the woods. Living in the woods is pretty darn cool, give it a try sometime.
Corey209
01-04-13, 09:28 AM
Just because you can't find it, means nothing!
In the wild these bugs are a snakes best friend, what do you think they do huh?????
Go to the shop & spray themselves with toxic mite solutions???
WOW would have thought all you experts & enthusiasts would know all this as a thick useless bitch like me knows more it seems!
You watch your care sheets ok, keep em handy yeh easier to refer top quickly when your trying to humiliate others!!!!!
TAURRUS Mite Control for Snakes & Other Reptiles (http://www.rainforest-reptiles.co.uk/mite_control.php)
I found one website but no credible references or sources. I'm almost 100% certain they aren't even a registered trademark. One small container of this crap is more expensive then the chemicals 99% of the herp community uses that has way more snakes and knowledge then you do.
why are you asking for mite treatment then?? sorry for the assumption lol but its a bit obvious lol you tire me, I've been nice and patient with you now your insulting me good luck with your boas, hope they make it. I have over 16 yrs experience no care sheet can teach ya that ;)
rescuing dogs gives you 000000 experience in boas...
Corey209
01-04-13, 09:29 AM
The very first post... "Positive or Negative" so why get all upset over the negatives? You gave permission to be negative with your opening post.
Hey now, I live in the middle of the woods. I want my ashes scattered in the woods. Living in the woods is pretty darn cool, give it a try sometime.
This.. this made me laugh.
Not asking for mite treatment!!!!
I'm asking for anyone who has experience of this type of mite treatment!
It interests me as it's brilliant & wouls have thought you pro's would know all about it....
Did think you would but can see how you would never have heard of it now! :D
infernalis
01-04-13, 09:34 AM
Is it an exclusive to the UK??
Corey209
01-04-13, 09:34 AM
Not asking for mite treatment!!!!
I'm asking for anyone who has experience of this type of mite treatment!
It interests me as it's brilliant & wouls have thought you pro's would know all about it....
Did think you would but can see how you would never have heard of it now! :D
You're far more educated then all of us.
Be it Positive or Negative I need to know as much as possible as soon as.
By posting you "need to know as much as possible as soon as" will make most people think that you have mites whether they have read your other thread or not. If you were just interested in predator mites and how effective they are then maybe you should have worded your first post a bit better. There is no point in flaming people who have made a wrong assumption due to you not being clear, lots of people have been very helpful to you in your other thread who may not now offer to your their vast knowledge :(
infernalis
01-04-13, 09:40 AM
I'm thinking about removing Cyan and Lime from the software. ;)
I agree but I also never said I was a nivice with reptiles!
Assumptions again.
New to this twist on FB but never asked how to care for these Boa's & little corn did I?
As i've said over & over I just wanted any suggestions on any reasons why the one Boa has gone ferrel?
I get care sheets & bad husbandry when he isn't in with another snake just WAS.
Put him in quiet place & destress... Der that's where he was when I joined this site!
No useful idea's just basic Boa care????
You'd be shocked if you knew!
But this has to go public! I can think of several reasons that aren't to do with basic lack of care why this poor boy might have changed like this!!
Expected some of you to as well!
I'm thinking about removing Cyan and Lime from the software. ;)
Cool only used as it's there to use? lol :(
its an exotic animal not a domestic (again not a dog) lol they are feral, some more tolerant to being bugged then others if you seriously want help I suggest you try to be bit less insulting and a bit more open
I agree the bright colours are a little annoying. ;) Perhaps VWBabe, for the sake of calming everyone's nerves a little, you might consider just sticking to calmer colours from now on?
However, this particular biocontrol seems at least interesting for the treatment of mites. Im not saying I know anything more than what the website talks about, which isnt much, but it seems to be worth a further look. Having said all that, Prevent a Mite works exceptionally well and seems to have no negative effect on the reptile, so I would still recommend it over any other cure at this point.
infernalis
01-04-13, 09:54 AM
Is it an exclusive to the UK??
Still waiting. :)
By posting you "need to know as much as possible as soon as" will make most people think that you have mites whether they have read your other thread or not. If you were just interested in predator mites and how effective they are then maybe you should have worded your first post a bit better. There is no point in flaming people who have made a wrong assumption due to you not being clear, lots of people have been very helpful to you in your other thread who may not now offer to your their vast knowledge :([/QUOTE]
I would have been clear & said I have a mite problem {& that it might be the reason for Boa being as he is, even}
But 'I've got a deadline to meet' didn't seem to be needed when I was enquiring about feedback on a particularly amazing reptile product....
Which one of your expert members has accused me of fabricating!!!
OMG
:bouncy:
PMSL
Corey209
01-04-13, 09:56 AM
[QUOTE=vwbabe;803818][COLOR=Navy][I][B]
I would have been clear & said I have a mite problem {& that it might be the reason for Boa being as he is, even}
But 'I've got a deadline to meet' didn't seem to be needed when I was enquiring about feedback on a particularly amazing reptile product....
Which one of your expert members has accused me of fabricating!!!
OMG
:bouncy:
PMSL
I'm not an expert and I never accused you of fabricating it which makes me think you're fabricating it.
I still stand by the nix treatment, I actually double up with prevent a mite..spray bleached scrubbed cage with the prevent a mite. spray animal with the nix treatment..its the only thing that kicked the mites that I had on that sunglow I got back from a loan
From the website, it looks to be a specific type of predator mite, though it appears to be a specially bred one. I'm not sure if that is true or just hype on the website though. They seem to be rather opaque about it, but that could just be due to translation. The website is from France, as the product appears to be also.
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:01 AM
I still stand by the nix treatment, I actually double up with prevent a mite..spray bleached scrubbed cage with the prevent a mite. spray animal with the nix treatment..its the only thing that kicked the mites that I had on that sunglow I got back from a loan
I'd probably rub the nix treatment on and avoid spraying. From what everyone told me on my post it can cause neuro damage or even be fatal.
Still waiting. :)
I don't know, maybe but the snakes come from more your way so these bugs would too, so would have thought this way of dealing with mites would be common practice in US ect? :suspicious:
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:03 AM
I don't know, maybe but the snakes come from more your way so these bugs would too, so would have thought this way of dealing with mites would be common practice in US ect? :suspicious:
I doubt people with large collections want to infest everything with more mites and the price is really expensive compared to PAM/Reptile relief.
it didn't for me, nix treatment is safe for human babies and its been diluted every 2 ozs with a gallon of water. I sprayed infact I sprayed him in replace of misting everyday for 7 days haven't seen a crawly since and I keep a nix spray bottle with the mixture for any new boas coming in so I don't have the problem again lol
are you saying again that the snakes have bugs there babe?? just clarifying?
infernalis
01-04-13, 10:05 AM
I don't know, maybe but the snakes come from more your way so these bugs would too, so would have thought this way of dealing with mites would be common practice in US ect? :suspicious:
Nope, I have read a few posts over the years about predator mites, but apparently the tried and true methods require insecticides.
I'm not an expert and I never accused you of fabricating it which makes me think you're fabricating it.
Funny that........as I never said it was you Corey!!! HaHaaaa :pissedoff:
infernalis
01-04-13, 10:07 AM
can we keep this productive please, Thank you.
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:07 AM
vwbabe, please just go grab your boa and look under it's head and gently with your fingers spread the little crease in the middle. If you don't see any mites there run your hand around the body and check your hand. If you don't want to do that just soak it in luke warm water for 20-30 minutes and tell us if you found any victims of the drowning.
Predator mites, which is what this appears to be related to, have been used over here for awhile. The problem seems to be that while they eat all the live mites successfully, they dont consume all the eggs. Then, after eating all the live mites, they die, naturally. After this, the unconsumed eggs hatch and the problem starts all over again. This is just what I have read, as Ive never used the predator mites myself before.
Prevent a Mite deals with both the live ones and the ones that hatch later from the eggs. I know you dont want to use chemicals, but this one has been used successfully for years with no apparent ill effect that I am aware of. There seems little reason to use anything else at this point.
Nope, I have read a few posts over the years about predator mites, but apparently the tried and true methods require insecticides.
They are quicker & cheaper but ALWAYS bad for any living being, animal, vegetable or mineral. Known fact that reptiles are not good with any of them. In effect you are slowly, but very often quickly killing what you care for!
There's No competition for nature!!
But hey I know nothing? So i'm told :smug:
I can understand why some people would want to use these over chemicals but I think the effectiveness of them would be down to the level of infestation and then the amount of predator mites used. A chemical won't get full so will kill every mite present before having chance to lay more eggs and then kill the ones that hatch from the eggs already laid (if the right chemical is used of course)
Predator mites, which is what this appears to be related to, have been used over here for awhile. The problem seems to be that while they eat all the live mites successfully, they dont consume all the eggs. Then, after eating all the live mites, they die, naturally. After this, the unconsumed eggs hatch and the problem starts all over again. This is just what I have read, as Ive never used the predator mites myself before.
Prevent a Mite deals with both the live ones and the ones that hatch later from the eggs. I know you dont want to use chemicals, but this one has been used successfully for years with no apparent ill effect that I am aware of. There seems little reason to use anything else at this point.
have you ever used prevent a mite?? it does not work and at $20 a can gets a bit expensive lol it treats the cage but does not treat the critters on the animal. I had one animal that came back to me in a breeder loan infested he stayed in my room for 6 months..6 months of different type of mite treatments. went through 4 bottles of pam several "natural" treatments, poor guy had no substrate in his cage, no hides lol one treatment nix and they were gone. Im not a fan of pam at all and most of my friends would say the same
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:16 AM
have you ever used prevent a mite?? it does not work and at $20 a can gets a bit expensive lol it treats the cage but does not treat the critters on the animal. I had one animal that came back to me in a breeder loan infested he stayed in my room for 6 months..6 months of different type of mite treatments. went through 4 bottles of pam several "natural" treatments, poor guy had no substrate in his cage, no hides lol one treatment nix and they were gone. Im not a fan of pam at all and most of my friends would say the same
Diluted permethrin cleared my mites up with one treatment, but I'm not going to ever recommend or even discuss that again.. :p
They are quicker & cheaper but ALWAYS bad for any living being, animal, vegetable or mineral. Known fact that reptiles are not good with any of them. In effect you are slowly, but very often quickly killing what you care for!
There's No competition for nature!!
But hey I know nothing? So i'm told :smug:
I'm not sure why you think all chemicals are always bad. That seems a little oversimplified. There are very many that work wonders, and very many that are used in nature, by nature. Do you have reason to believe that Prevent a Mite is bad for reptiles? I would be curious to read any articles/research that might be present about this.
Predator mites, which is what this appears to be related to, have been used over here for awhile. The problem seems to be that while they eat all the live mites successfully, they dont consume all the eggs. Then, after eating all the live mites, they die, naturally. After this, the unconsumed eggs hatch and the problem starts all over again. This is just what I have read, as Ive never used the predator mites myself before.
Prevent a Mite deals with both the live ones and the ones that hatch later from the eggs. I know you dont want to use chemicals, but this one has been used successfully for years with no apparent ill effect that I am aware of. There seems little reason to use anything else at this point.
There are special preparations before you add these bugs.
They live for over 3months but you have to keep to the instructions, they'll live longer too!
Recommended to do a second batch after 3months. They will live as a preventative in a snake tank too!
They do a superb & unmatched job & are harmless! They are born to eat snake mites soley! :D
have you ever used prevent a mite?? it does not work and at $20 a can gets a bit expensive lol it treats the cage but does not treat the critters on the animal. I had one animal that came back to me in a breeder loan infested he stayed in my room for 6 months..6 months of different type of mite treatments. went through 4 bottles of pam several "natural" treatments, poor guy had no substrate in his cage, no hides lol one treatment nix and they were gone. Im not a fan of pam at all and most of my friends would say the same
Honestly, no. Ive only had it recommended by others, and they also recommend NIX, so I shouldve put both down. (got lazy and didnt bother typing both, sorry ;) )
Thankfully, Ive only had mites once, with my very first reptile years ago, and got rid of them relatively easy.
Sorry for the double post
There are special preparations before you add these bugs.
They live for over 3months but you have to keep to the instructions, they'll live longer too!
Recommended to do a second batch after 3months. They will live as a preventative in a snake tank too!
They do a superb & unmatched job & are harmless! They are born to eat snake mites soley! :D
well sounds like you got it figured out ;)
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 10:27 AM
TAURRUS isn't even on any trademark registry but they use the symbol showing they are and they just put some snake mites into a container and named it? I used every type of search I could with no luck of finding TAURRUS. If anyone had ever used this I'm sure someone would have spoke about it once or twice. Doesn't seem entirely legit.
Well I'm afraid your wrong there... Here's a screen shot from their site, and this is no crappy reptile shop. Chris who owns it is a long term herper and very knowledgable on reptiles including all of their DWA animals.
I'm not sure why you think all chemicals are always bad. That seems a little oversimplified. There are very many that work wonders, and very many that are used in nature, by nature. Do you have reason to believe that Prevent a Mite is bad for reptiles? I would be curious to read any articles/research that might be present about this.
:suspicious: Articles are out there but then hard to find as its all big business!
Any man made chemical has more negatives than positives! It's a known fact!!!
They have a cure for cancer in tests done on rats but surprise, surprise it doesn't work in humans! Shock Horror lol
Why do you think there are so many more cases of cancer these days? Chemicals in the air, on the skin all those nice & good things we are lead to believe are harmless????
Research hard enough & long enough & you will find the truthes!
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:29 AM
Well I'm afraid your wrong there... Here's a screen shot from their site, and this is no crappy reptile shop. Chris who owns it is a long term herper and very knowledgable on reptiles including all of their DWA animals.
Well the person who distributes/owns it may be known but I still couldn't find the name in any trademark registry for US/UK/France/Spain. And there's still almost no reviews about his specific product.
@vwbabe, not all chemicals are man made.
There are special preparations before you add these bugs.
They live for over 3months but you have to keep to the instructions, they'll live longer too!
Recommended to do a second batch after 3months. They will live as a preventative in a snake tank too!
They do a superb & unmatched job & are harmless! They are born to eat snake mites soley! :D
Im not saying you are wrong, but where did you get this information? I cant seem to find this anywhere on their site. However, it does say that these particular predator mites also eat the eggs, so that is different than what I have been told. Do you have a source you could point us to about them living on in the enclosure for 3 months?
Without chemicals many of us may not be alive today or live past 30. Yes there are bad chemicals but not all are bad
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 10:36 AM
Well the person who distributes/owns it may be known but I still couldn't find the name in any trademark registry for US/UK/France/Spain. And there's still almost no reviews about his specific product.
@vwbabe, not all chemicals are man made.
Well to be fair everyone's allowed to make their own decisions with their snakes.. It wasn't too long ago that you were being told that you were doing a lot wrong, and I believe you really didn't like that...
:suspicious: Articles are out there but then hard to find as its all big business!
Any man made chemical has more negatives than positives! It's a known fact!!!
They have a cure for cancer in tests done on rats but surprise, surprise it doesn't work in humans! Shock Horror lol
Why do you think there are so many more cases of cancer these days? Chemicals in the air, on the skin all those nice & good things we are lead to believe are harmless????
Research hard enough & long enough & you will find the truthes!
I think there is more cancer bc people are no longer taking care of their bodies. and people survive cancer with treatment (chemicals) if it wasn't for chemicals babies would still be dying by the thousands ie small pocks, measles and such. people with asthma, they'd die if it wasn't for chemicals , people with allergies would die if it wasn't for chemicals...my babies would have never been born if it wasn't for chemicals (rh factor)....your agreement is weak. My dog who had a severe heat stroke this summer would have perished if it wasn't for the medicine they used to stop the swelling in his brain...I could go on and on...
Well I'm afraid your wrong there... Here's a screen shot from their site, and this is no crappy reptile shop. Chris who owns it is a long term herper and very knowledgable on reptiles including all of their DWA animals.
That's the one TAURRUS ;)
Fair Play Jamie, and your right about Chris & Tina's shop. They are in the gloibal breeding programs & even stock the 'Tai Pan' which puts them above most as even the zoo's don't have one!
They don't actually stock any other mite treatments now, only this one as it's the best with NO risks they told me today! :bouncy:
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 10:41 AM
That's the one TAURRUS ;)
Fair Play Jamie, and your right about Chris & Tina's shop. They are in the gloibal breeding programs & even stock the 'Tai Pan' which puts them above most as even the zoo's don't have one!
They don't actually stock any other mite treatments now, only this one as it's the best with NO risks they told me today! :bouncy:
It's not the animals that they have in the place that makes it good.. It's the service and knowledge that's available if you ask nicely.. I've never seen him turn anyone away that needs advice.
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:42 AM
I think there is more cancer bc people are no longer taking care of their bodies. and people survive cancer with treatment (chemicals) if it wasn't for chemicals babies would still be dying by the thousands ie small pocks, measles and such. people with asthma, they'd die if it wasn't for chemicals , people with allergies would die if it wasn't for chemicals...my babies would have never been born if it wasn't for chemicals (rh factor)....your agreement is weak. My dog who had a severe heat stroke this summer would have perished if it wasn't for the medicine they used to stop the swelling in his brain...I could go on and on...
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that's pollution, completely different and Im a firm believer someday we will have no place to live bc of all our trash lol different topic all together ha! well I have a ton of cage cleaning to do and this thread has certainly helped me put it off, very entertaining
Im not saying you are wrong, but where did you get this information? I cant seem to find this anywhere on their site. However, it does say that these particular predator mites also eat the eggs, so that is different than what I have been told. Do you have a source you could point us to about them living on in the enclosure for 3 months?
This information came from a converstaion with Chis who owns this reptile shop today as you have to give the dimensions of viv's & number of snakes ect so he can calculate amounts needed.
Yes simple ring them & enquire for yourselves?
No one had any positive feedback on here so I found out more from the source myself. :robo:
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:48 AM
that's pollution, completely different and Im a firm believer someday we will have no place to live bc of all our trash lol different topic all together ha! well I have a ton of cage cleaning to do and this thread has certainly helped me put it off, very entertaining
Our pollution is getting into our fish and all kinds of crap. I wouldn't be surprised if all the damage we've done to the environment would cause harm like cancer to us.
why so much research if you don't have mites??
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 10:51 AM
She does have mites... Isn't that the whole point of this?
Corey209
01-04-13, 10:57 AM
She does have mites... Isn't that the whole point of this?
She raged earlier saying we're accusing her of having mites which I would assume means she doesn't have mites. But then she says later she does have mites.
She does have mites... Isn't that the whole point of this?
Nope, go back a few pages
Edit, I think I will have to go back as well after corey's post
She does have mites... Isn't that the whole point of this?
lol you would think..that's where she started "screaming" at as and insulting our intelligence :) nice lady lol
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 11:06 AM
Well if she has then they need dealing with fast for the good of the snake..At least she's trying her best in ways that suit her beliefs. It's not like she's a noob who's trying to save a few bucks by not treating. I've seen the price of these at pilbara and it's not cheap at all.
Maybe a little encouragement will help rather than ripping apart a method that has been used by a lot of people with mixed results.. Some people have had them work, others say predator mites are crap.
Would we be having the same conversation in such a condescending way if say Wayne told us he was going to try predator mites?! (Not saying he would)
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 11:08 AM
lol you would think..that's where she started "screaming" at as and insulting our intelligence :) nice lady lol
In that case I'll step back from this argument as I didn't realise that had happened.... didnt read all the pink writing hahaha. ;D
I don't think anybody knocked the predator mites, I think someone mentioned that they don't kill eggs but other than that I think they sound good. I've used predator flys for the flys in my barn..they worked great
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 11:12 AM
I don't think anybody knocked the predator mites, I think someone mentioned that they don't kill eggs but other than that I think they sound good. I've used predator flys for the flys in my barn..they worked great
I've never used them so wouldn't know either way, but I know that others have said they're hit n miss so I wouldn't rule out using them myself..
Although I would probably use nix like everyone says as I'd want to get rid of the mites as fast as possible :)
Corey209
01-04-13, 11:12 AM
I recommended a chemical treatment and that TAURRUS didn't have an official trademark or hardly if not any reviews but I never said they were bad. No idea why she got so mad.
If you don't plan on ever using chemicals you might as well go find a hole in the middle of the woods to live in. I can't find a single thing about "TAURRUS" that says it's natural in anyway.
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Really? You cant think of any reason why she got so mad?
Anyway, I tried calling the shop but they were already closed for the day. Ill call them again tomorrow to see what information I can get from Chris. These guys really seem to know their stuff. Some of the animals they are breeding are really impressive, including Chinese Alligators. If they stand behind it then it is definitely worth looking into further.
SnakeyJay
01-04-13, 11:36 AM
Really? You cant think of any reason why she got so mad?
Anyway, I tried calling the shop but they were already closed for the day. Ill call them again tomorrow to see what information I can get from Chris. These guys really seem to know their stuff. Some of the animals they are breeding are really impressive, including Chinese Alligators. If they stand behind it then it is definitely worth looking into further.
Well they're a good place in my opinion mate.. I'm not some follower of his at all, but the place is always clean and staff always helpful. Generally all of their staff is knowledgable.
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