View Full Version : Oppurtunity to adopt Dumeril need info first
Hi, I have an oppurtunity to adopt a Dumeril Boa, but before i make a decision, i need some feedback from others about this type of snake. what i know about him is that he's 4 yrs old, no feeding or shed issues and the foster owner says hes a big sweetheart. she would keep him herself but doesnt feel she has appropriate time for him because she has other snakes that have issues that she spends more time on & she doesnt want him to get overlooked because he is such a good boy.
he would be my first boa and if i take him, i would be a permanant home.i've read all the care sheets and im not concerned about my ability to care for him. i just want to know what i could be getting myself into.
thanks in advance for any feedback, advice, opinions or experience you could share with me. sherri
nick654377
12-30-12, 05:37 PM
well ive had mine for 2 months and its just like my ball i used to have just not as active. super awsome snake. super calm. it is a ground dwelling snake so it will not grip on to you like a red tail would. you wont regret it. hurry up and snatch him up.
Gungirl
12-30-12, 06:22 PM
What kinds of issues do the other snakes she has have? Be concerned on if the other snakes have anything that could be transferred to this snake. This snake might look fine now but could be developing something as we speak.
Lankyrob
12-30-12, 06:28 PM
What kinds of issues do the other snakes she has have? Be concerned on if the other snakes have anything that could be transferred to this snake. This snake might look fine now but could be developing something as we speak.
This ^^^ if you do take it have a STRICT quarantine for six months :)
like gungirl said pending no health issues and you can house a snake that has the ability to get 7 or so feet it is a snake that would be welcome in my collection.
rmfsnakes32
12-30-12, 06:45 PM
Quarentine for 6 months! But dumerils boas are great they are like big heavy bodied lap snakes you wont regret it
TeaNinja
12-30-12, 07:13 PM
dums are awesome snakes :) i have 2.
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af184/teaninja/11-24-12nigma002.jpg
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TeaNinja
12-30-12, 07:15 PM
well ive had mine for 2 months and its just like my ball i used to have just not as active. super awsome snake. super calm. it is a ground dwelling snake so it will not grip on to you like a red tail would. you wont regret it. hurry up and snatch him up.
lol, that's crazy! :P i've handled plenty of red tails and my dumerils plenty of times and they will both grip onto you PRETTY well.
What kinds of issues do the other snakes she has have? Be concerned on if the other snakes have anything that could be transferred to this snake. This snake might look fine now but could be developing something as we speak.
the issues are feeding and handling issues. the foster owner works for an animal shelter/hospital relatively close to me,this snake came in as a surrender. she's had him quite awhile and just feels badly because he's such a sweetheart, but she needs time to work with the others and just cant give him the attn he deserves.
Quarentine for 6 months! But dumerils boas are great they are like big heavy bodied lap snakes you wont regret it
i would be keeping him and his supplies in a separate area of the house permanently. i only have two snakes now and i dont share their supplies either. my cali king and egyptian rogersi are in my BR. As i intend to have him housed in a larger cage eventually, he would be in the LR. so i might as well start him off there.
nick654377
12-30-12, 08:19 PM
maybe mine just doesnt like to grip compared to the redtails i have held.
maybe mine just doesnt like to grip compared to the redtails i have held.
It's a 2012. Don't pass fales info.
To the op, go support a breeder. You wouldn't be able to pay me to take a snake from a "rescue". What if this said rescue takes in mite infested snakes, and does not practice quarantine.
nick654377
12-30-12, 08:30 PM
It's a 2012. Don't pass fales info.
To the op, go support a breeder. You wouldn't be able to pay me to take a snake from a "rescue". What if this said rescue takes in mite infested snakes, and does not practice quarantine.
my bad:shocked:
EmbraceCalamity
12-30-12, 08:50 PM
It's a 2012. Don't pass fales info.
To the op, go support a breeder. You wouldn't be able to pay me to take a snake from a "rescue". What if this said rescue takes in mite infested snakes, and does not practice quarantine.I don't know about reptile rescues, but about any other rescue would be happy to have an adoptable animal checked by a vet if requested - actually probably would already, but I'm sure if OP requested it be looked over by a vet, they'd be happy to acquiesce.
~Maggot
I don't know about reptile rescues, but about any other rescue would be happy to have an adoptable animal checked by a vet if requested - actually probably would already, but I'm sure if OP requested it be looked over by a vet, they'd be happy to acquiesce.
~Maggot
the shelter/ hospital she works at is for all animals. there are vets on site.any animal/reptile that is fostered out or adopted out has to be seen first.
i did work with pitbull rescue. after doing so,i would probably not buy a puppy from a pet store or breeder, as i'd rather give a homeless one a loving, permanent home.
i have the same mentality about snakes. my cali king was a "rescue" surrendered as well.. i know the staff there and was asked if i would take him. no regrets at all.
EmbraceCalamity
12-30-12, 09:26 PM
the shelter/ hospital she works at is for all animals. there are vets on site.any animal/reptile that is fostered out or adopted out has to be seen first.
i did work with pitbull rescue. after doing so,i would probably not buy a puppy from a pet store or breeder, as i'd rather give a homeless one a loving, permanent home.
i have the same mentality about snakes. my cali king was a "rescue" surrendered as well.. i know the staff there and was asked if i would take him. no regrets at all.I know. I volunteered at a rescue too as a kid and have been taking in rescues of all species since, so I understand. I'm in total agreement with you, but it seems that taking in rescues is a little looked down on around here. In the words of one member here, "Who wants someone else's throw-aways?" Not that buying from a breeder doesn't have its advantages, but I'd rather take in unwanted/neglected reptiles than ones from breeders or stores too.
~Maggot
I know. I volunteered at a rescue too as a kid and have been taking in rescues of all species since, so I understand. I'm in total agreement with you, but it seems that taking in rescues is a little looked down on around here. In the words of one member here, "Who wants someone else's throw-aways?" Not that buying from a breeder doesn't have its advantages, but I'd rather take in unwanted/neglected reptiles than ones from breeders or stores too.
~Maggot
I know.There seems to be some pretty judgmental members here.That's partially why i read more than i post.Which is a shame because my rogersi isnt a well-known snake and i could add to this community on that, and more. I was chastised in one of my first postings here, i rarely rise to the bait, so i let it go. Yes, i'm new here, but hardly an idiot.
EmbraceCalamity
12-31-12, 07:12 AM
I know.There seems to be some pretty judgmental members here.That's partially why i read more than i post.Which is a shame because my rogersi isnt a well-known snake and i could add to this community on that, and more. I was chastised in one of my first postings here, i rarely rise to the bait, so i let it go. Yes, i'm new here, but hardly an idiot.People here can be harsh, myself included, but it's generally only in the best interest of the reptiles. But looking through your posts, I didn't see any chastising going on, unless it was removed.
If the snake's in good health and you're confident in your ability to care for it properly, I think you should get it. :)
~Maggot
Gungirl
12-31-12, 07:26 AM
If the snake is in good shape I say take it on then. I am just always super concerned about health issues you can't see with the naked eye. If you get it post up some pics!
SnakeyJay
12-31-12, 08:04 AM
Now now calamity, don't be tarring everyone with the same brush. People on here do not "look down on rescues" it's just that some people do not look at these cases with their heart but use their head and have a differing point of view..
You see it as taking in an unwanted/mistreated animal and giving it a chance; while others may see it as putting their already well cared for collection/pets at risk from serious problems or diseases.
Our animals are our responsibility to keep healthy and is giving that one sick snake a chance worth risking the health our other animals?..... Everyone's allowed their own point of view on that.
EmbraceCalamity
12-31-12, 08:27 AM
Now now calamity, don't be tarring everyone with the same brush. People on here do not "look down on rescues" it's just that some people do not look at these cases with their heart but use their head and have a differing point of view..
You see it as taking in an unwanted/mistreated animal and giving it a chance; while others may see it as putting their already well cared for collection/pets at risk from serious problems or diseases.
Our animals are our responsibility to keep healthy and is giving that one sick snake a chance worth risking the health our other animals?..... Everyone's allowed their own point of view on that.I didn't say "everyone" is the same or why they look down on it. There are different reasons. Many people here are breeders, and it's a loss of sale for them if someone "rescues" an animal and would rather have the "support." Many people here are concerned about possible illness, but as I said, any reputable rescue would either already have their animals checked by a vet or would be happy to do it for free if requested (which a breeder, to my knowledge, likely wouldn't). And then some are simply too good for others' "throw-aways."
~Maggot
KORBIN5895
12-31-12, 08:33 AM
It takes only one snake to have ibd or crypto to put you out of this hobby for a year or more.
SnakeyJay
12-31-12, 08:49 AM
No you said looked down upon on this forum which implies a majority.. Stop argueing semantics.
EmbraceCalamity
12-31-12, 09:02 AM
No you said looked down upon on this forum which implies a majority.. Stop argueing semantics.I said it seems that it is a little looked down on around here. That is very different from saying, "The majority of people on this forum look down on taking in rescues." It's not my fault you took it that way, as it was not stated that way. You're the one arguing semantics by saying my statement "implies a majority" when it obviously doesn't, unless the definition of "little" was changed without my knowledge.
I don't see why this has to become a big deal. All I was saying is that I've noticed a few people here that turn their noses up at the idea. Wasn't attacking everyone or the majority of the forum or even anyone at all, as it wasn't an attack in any way, believe it or not. It's fine if y'all don't want to take in rescues, but some of us like to.
~Maggot
Lankyrob
12-31-12, 09:02 AM
I would be surprised if any rescues quarantine every reptile they get in for six months or more, it just isnt feasible with the numbers they are dealing with and that then puts every reptile at risk.
You then bring one into your home and any lapse of quarantine rules by anyone in the household puts your whole collection at risk.
Rehoming rescues is a very noble thing to do for any type of animal but you have to make the decision with your head rather thsn your heart. :)
EmbraceCalamity
12-31-12, 09:18 AM
I would be surprised if any rescues quarantine every reptile they get in for six months or more, it just isnt feasible with the numbers they are dealing with and that then puts every reptile at risk.
You then bring one into your home and any lapse of quarantine rules by anyone in the household puts your whole collection at risk.
Rehoming rescues is a very noble thing to do for any type of animal but you have to make the decision with your head rather thsn your heart. :)Depends on the rescue, as many of them don't take that many reptiles. And the OP even stated that it would be permanently kept separate from the other reptiles and even supplies are never shared among any of them.
EDIT: And not quarantining properly would be an issue, no matter where the reptile came from, whether from a rescue, a breeder, a show, etc.
~Maggot
Wow this thread went totally wrong....As i said earlier in the thread, i have done rescue with pit bulls in my past. One case of parvo and entire shelters of un-vaccinated can be wiped out. One dog with fleas can cause major expense and herculean efforts to eliminate an ensuing infestation. The risks are there, true, but responsibility and doing it right make all the difference. The unfortunate fact is that there is a need for re-homes, shelters,adoptions, fosters, etc... because there are irresponsible humans involved.
Taking in a rescue does not take away from the breeders. That rescue was bred, one way or another. No breeder can guarantee one of theirs won't end up a rescue. But i can guarantee that the breeder sold that rescue, whether to another breeder, pet store or private sale. And honestly, most fosters or adopters do it for the nurturing, caring aspect of it, not because they are looking for a morph or a "pedigree", like another breeder or private sale may be. So, thats not a lost customer. Btw, I'm curious, what happens to the "bad" morphs or crosses?
I was more interested in opinions and advice on DUMERIL BOAS than on my decision on whether to rescue it or not. Sorry to be snarky, but my thread was about the type of snake, so that i can be responsible and do the right thing.
EmbraceCalamity
12-31-12, 10:07 PM
Wow this thread went totally wrong....As i said earlier in the thread, i have done rescue with pit bulls in my past. One case of parvo and entire shelters of un-vaccinated can be wiped out. One dog with fleas can cause major expense and herculean efforts to eliminate an ensuing infestation. The risks are there, true, but responsibility and doing it right make all the difference. The unfortunate fact is that there is a need for re-homes, shelters,adoptions, fosters, etc... because there are irresponsible humans involved.
Taking in a rescue does not take away from the breeders. That rescue was bred, one way or another. No breeder can guarantee one of theirs won't end up a rescue. But i can guarantee that the breeder sold that rescue, whether to another breeder, pet store or private sale. And honestly, most fosters or adopters do it for the nurturing, caring aspect of it, not because they are looking for a morph or a "pedigree", like another breeder or private sale may be. So, thats not a lost customer. Btw, I'm curious, what happens to the "bad" morphs or crosses?
I was more interested in opinions and advice on DUMERIL BOAS than on my decision on whether to rescue it or not. Sorry to be snarky, but my thread was about the type of snake, so that i can be responsible and do the right thing.I would give you info on the snake if I had some. Unfortunately, I'm a gecko person, not a snake person. I do hope someone will give you some info though.
As for what happens to the "bad" morphs, it's my understanding that they usually go to petshops or just get sold cheap.
~Maggot
I'm not really into lizards, but I love looking at geckos and beardeds. I saw a really neat looking gargoyle gecko today when i went to get my snake stuff.
EmbraceCalamity
12-31-12, 10:35 PM
I'm not really into lizards, but I love looking at geckos and beardeds. I saw a really neat looking gargoyle gecko today when i went to get my snake stuff.Psh. Lizards are awesome. I love snakes, but geckos will always hold a special place in my heart.
~Maggot
SnakeyJay
01-01-13, 05:51 AM
I'm not really into lizards, but I love looking at geckos and beardeds. I saw a really neat looking gargoyle gecko today when i went to get my snake stuff.
I'm a boa guy but I recently got a gargoyle for my gf.. She loves it, he's active and entertaining. He won't eat insects at the moment but this is common with them apparently. They come in a few different morphs as they "fire up" at night and look spectacular :)
KORBIN5895
01-01-13, 06:34 AM
I was more interested in opinions and advice on DUMERIL BOAS than on my decision on whether to rescue it or not. Sorry to be snarky, but my thread was about the type of snake, so that i can be responsible and do the right thing.
I am so sorry! I didn't realize that you owned this thread.
As for bad morphs or just plain defective snakes, it all comes down on the morals of a breeder. An ethical breeder will either cull them or sell them as feeders only.
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