Please read this post !!!!!!!!!

[ReptileSeeker]

I have a 5 month old savannah monitor that is about to be 6 month on the 15th , i just dont have the money or time. someone who is QUALIFIED to take care of savs, please take this off my hands. it is a male, it is very defensive. tong feed tho , i am looking for a trade or money (paypal) i really love this lizard, and feel free to ask me questions about him.

[Lankyrob]

So you want someone qualified to "take it off your hands" but also to pay you? Either you want it to go to a great home OR you want cash for it. I dont see the two things coming together somehow.

[Jay]

Ill take him off your hands for $200usd. I just can't seem to load any money on PayPal ATM. Can you send $300usd? I'll then send you back the payment of $200usd.

[Terranaut]

Well considering a now removed thread I will be cool about this.
Either give it away to someone you trust or sell it to anyone with the cash.
Buying a reptile and a few montha later losing interest is not a free venture.
You will lose some money unless you only want 1/2 of next to nothing for it.
Sorry but its true. Rehoming and selling are not the same.
It is ok to ask for some cash but it had better be a fraction of new cost for the animal and its enclosure. A true rehome is free.

[ReptileSeeker]

So you want someone qualified to "take it off your hands" but also to pay you? Either you want it to go to a great home OR you want cash for it. I dont see the two things coming together somehow.
i want it to go to a great home , but i need the money because of all the money ive put into this little guy .

[ReptileSeeker]

Ill take him off your hands for $200usd. I just can't seem to load any money on PayPal ATM. Can you send $300usd? I'll then send you back the payment of $200usd.
sorry i cant , but if you get yours working then we can talk about this more .

[ReptileSeeker]

Well considering a now removed thread I will be cool about this.
Either give it away to someone you trust or sell it to anyone with the cash.
Buying a reptile and a few montha later losing interest is not a free venture.
You will lose some money unless you only want 1/2 of next to nothing for it.
Sorry but its true. Rehoming and selling are not the same.
It is ok to ask for some cash but it had better be a fraction of new cost for the animal and its enclosure. A true rehome is free.
i didnt lose intrest , school has taken over and money is running low .

[TaylorWalker]

I totally understand, schooling is very important. But its like Terranaut said, rehoming should be free and if its because you need the money because of what you put in them then your not going to get it all back, not even close.

[Terranaut]

sorry i cant , but if you get yours working then we can talk about this more .

Hahahaha. Man read Jay's post again. You missed it !!

[Pareeeee]

Ill take him off your hands for $200usd. I just can't seem to load any money on PayPal ATM. Can you send $300usd? I'll then send you back the payment of $200usd.

rofl.......

[jaleely]

Hey mykee, Aaron, korbin? Please. I'm not as eloquent.

[StudentoReptile]

I totally understand, schooling is very important. But its like Terranaut said, rehoming should be free and if its because you need the money because of what you put in them then your not going to get it all back, not even close.

True dat.

LOL...even the animals I have purchased and resold years later, I would never make real profit on, if I tried to recoup ALL the expenses I put into each critter (food, heating, bedding). "Yeah, I paid $20 for this ball python, but I'm trying to recoup all the rats, aspen shavings and electricity that powered his heat mat over the past 5 years...so that'll be about $200 rehoming fee" :wacky:

Ditto on what everyone else said. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Want it to go to a good home? Screen for the right person and just give it to them (you may even feel good about it afterwards knowing it went to a better home). Or you can just pawn it off to whoever shows up with the right amount of cash. Can't do both. Sorry.

[jaleely]

if you want to make money because you're a student, ebay some video games or books or something.

[StudentoReptile]

if you want to make money because you're a student, ebay some video games or books or something.

I was thinking the same thing. There's something else in your closet that you could make a quick buck on...

...or better yet...is getting a job out of the question? I don't mean the question sarcastically or mean-spirited? Seriously...if you are constantly needing cash, you will quickly run out of things in your closet or trunk of your car, to pawn off. Steady income trumps that. Even some miniscule campus job is better than nothing. This coming from one voice of experience (a herper who spent 8 yrs in college, had reptiles the entire time in dorms, apartments, etc. and at one time, held 3 different jobs simultaneously).

[Gatorhunter1231]

Money on a sav lol. I can get them for $10 and get better deals on larger quanity. I'll pay $15 but you pay shipping ($50-60) ;)

You better off selling the cage and supplies with the added bonus of a free monitor.

[Aaron_S]

I have a 5 month old savannah monitor that is about to be 6 month on the 15th , i just dont have the money or time. someone who is QUALIFIED to take care of savs, please take this off my hands. it is a male, it is very defensive. tong feed tho , i am looking for a trade or money (paypal) i really love this lizard, and feel free to ask me questions about him.

What would you trade for? If you don't have time for this then how can you have time for anything else? Or the money for it?

School is important and I gave up all my animals when I went to school. You'll NEVER get money out of the most common monitor out there that you can find for FREE all over craigslist and other online "rescues".

LOLOL to you getting anything out of it...including his enclosure...

[DiscoPat]

How big is he at this point? How was he kept? What does he look like? If he is healthy and you pay me 50-100 for food for a month (not every month just once because I am also a student but I have little money currently. Steve is still a very high priority, his food comes after mine.) I will consider it. I do want another lizard to be with Steve but if this lizard wasn't properly kept or isn't healthy or has a bad temperament then I wouldn't want it.

[Danimal]

I really don't get you guys sometimes.

[StudentoReptile]

I really don't get you guys sometimes.

What don't you get?

[Relentless]

I'm sorry but how do you know now that you don't have money for him, yet you had the money to blow on him and his enclosure and supplies? And knowing you were in school?

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but if you sell him, it won't be someone who is going to care for him properly. Chances are very slim. Do the poor guy a favor and give him to someone who will actually care for him properly.

[AjaMichelle]

...or has a bad temperament then I wouldn't want it.

What? :confused:

[DiscoPat]

I wouldn't want another Sav if it was mean. I have one already and it seems risky to introduce two to each other in the first place. That one is about the same age as my current one.

[AjaMichelle]

I wouldn't want another Sav if it was mean. I have one already and it seems risky to introduce two to each other in the first place. That one is about the same age as my current one.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but savannah monitors aren't ever mean. They're defensive, and a sav that isn't defensive is likely very very sick. You know? It seems like if you're in the market for another savannah you would want one that seems "mean." A "tame" sav is likely undermetabolized, cold, or suffering from organ damage.

[DiscoPat]

I didn't say I wanted a tame one. I just don't want to introduce 2 savannahs to each other if either is overly defensive. Mine can be defensive over his space, but I can pick him up without him attempting to whip me or hiss at me.

Look at Wayne's monitors, both raised in great conditions, Cera is more aggressive and defensive where Littlefoot is less and able to be handled.

I guess I should have said less aggressive.

[infernalis]

Just to clarify, so we are all on the same page....

Littlefoot, although the calmer of the two, will tolerate me holding him in my hands for roughly 30-45 seconds before he squirms and his toenails start digging up my arm.

Yes he's friendly, but at the same time has boundaries that I have to respect.

Most times when his feet hit the floor, he's off on a mad dash unless I have food to keep his interest.

Cera is calming down a little bit at time passes, has even jumped off the sill into the reptile room a couple times leaving me with no choice but to quickly scoop her up and put back into the cage. Neither time did I get bit.

[Pirarucu]

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but savannah monitors aren't ever mean. They're defensive, and a sav that isn't defensive is likely very very sick. You know? It seems like if you're in the market for another savannah you would want one that seems "mean." A "tame" sav is likely undermetabolized, cold, or suffering from organ damage.I don't think he's asking for a "tame" sav, he's making sure it's not a mean one. There are mean ones out there. They aren't mean towards people so much, but are very territorial towards other monitors, and don't do well sharing space with others. Those animals usually make good pets or display animals, just not good breeders or cohabitants because they may kill the monitors in their cage.

[EmbraceCalamity]

I don't think he's asking for a "tame" sav, he's making sure it's not a mean one. There are mean ones out there. They aren't mean towards people so much, but are very territorial towards other monitors, and don't do well sharing space with others. Those animals usually make good pets or display animals, just not good breeders or cohabitants because they may kill the monitors in their cage.I really don't think OP is going to know any of that though.

~Maggot

[jaleely]

wayne's are different sexes,as well, so that probably plays a role in them being able to be housed together....is that true, wayne?
i honestly wouldn't introduce animals to live together anyway. there is quarentine time, and just general observation of the animal...you don't want to get your current animal sick with anything.

many people get lizards or snakes, take on the ownership and responsibilty of caring for another living thing, then decide to go do something else with their lives so they give it up.
many of us are frustrated with that pattern. no forethought. it also suggests the animal wasn't taken care of properly, as this person has a pattern of "moving on" when things don't suit them...so who knows how this animal has been housed? could be half starving, could be dehydrated...this casues a big issue for the person taking it from them. usually means vet care and at the least time invested in bringing the animal back up to health, IF it can be done..many times they die from the long term exposure to bad husbandry.

which, if someone got an animal, then goes to school and wants to get rid of it...USUALLY, not always, but usually suggests the pattern of lack of care, and bad husbandry despite them saying "oh i love this animal".

Now if we take this person's name into consideration..."retpile seeker"....come on. This clearly sounds like they are into the thrill of getting pets, having them, then getting rid of them.
It's possible they get them, then take CARE of them, then get rid of them....but presidence with others like this suggests that the animal is in poor condition.

just so those of you reading can understand some of the sarcasim and frustration from the rest of us. people doing these things is what makes the hobby look bad.
little do they know, it makes that person look bad as well.
what does it say about their personality?
just the fact that you commit to however many years of care that animal requires, then you give it up for any reason, says a lot about the person.

i just don't get people who do this. Even if it was an impulse buy in the beginning....at some point, didn't they ever google anything about the animal? it lives for YEARS and years.
just try to figure out if your prepared for that before you try to home the animal and make a mess like this.

no one seems to actually care about the welfare of the animal. and usually people like this are repeat offenders. i can think of at least two offhand who do this on a regular basis then act righteous on the forum. drives me crazy holding my tongue.

[jaleely]

by the way, i went and lived in a dorm, then an apartment for years while i went to school. i didn't have this story. so don't act like "oooh going to schoooooool" is like, the end all to having to give up animals. please.

poor broke student, too. Please. get a job. if you love your animal so much you wouldn't sell it. if you LOVE your animal, and you truly can't take care of it for a valid reason, give it to someone who will. that is what people are trying to say.

your posts clearly just act like you want money. pooor broke student. go take out a loan for living expenses. write a good paper, and get a grant. you're "going to school" so you should know how to do those two things at least. They also have part time work available through the school for low income, i know, i did it.
they WILL find ways for you to afford your living expenses.

just seems like a weird option. also, any excuse you come up with is not good enough. Just admit you got an animal, don't want it anymore, and you want money. don't go on with the talk of "oh i just want a good home for it". think about it...you want money for something you just don't want to take care of anymore.
I guess we all just want you to admit that as well.
you won't get so many negative posts if you just present things truthfully.

[ReptileSeeker]

wayne's are different sexes,as well, so that probably plays a role in them being able to be housed together....is that true, wayne?
i honestly wouldn't introduce animals to live together anyway. there is quarentine time, and just general observation of the animal...you don't want to get your current animal sick with anything.

many people get lizards or snakes, take on the ownership and responsibilty of caring for another living thing, then decide to go do something else with their lives so they give it up.
many of us are frustrated with that pattern. no forethought. it also suggests the animal wasn't taken care of properly, as this person has a pattern of "moving on" when things don't suit them...so who knows how this animal has been housed? could be half starving, could be dehydrated...this casues a big issue for the person taking it from them. usually means vet care and at the least time invested in bringing the animal back up to health, IF it can be done..many times they die from the long term exposure to bad husbandry.

which, if someone got an animal, then goes to school and wants to get rid of it...USUALLY, not always, but usually suggests the pattern of lack of care, and bad husbandry despite them saying "oh i love this animal".

Now if we take this person's name into consideration..."retpile seeker"....come on. This clearly sounds like they are into the thrill of getting pets, having them, then getting rid of them.
It's possible they get them, then take CARE of them, then get rid of them....but presidence with others like this suggests that the animal is in poor condition.

just so those of you reading can understand some of the sarcasim and frustration from the rest of us. people doing these things is what makes the hobby look bad.
little do they know, it makes that person look bad as well.
what does it say about their personality?
just the fact that you commit to however many years of care that animal requires, then you give it up for any reason, says a lot about the person.

i just don't get people who do this. Even if it was an impulse buy in the beginning....at some point, didn't they ever google anything about the animal? it lives for YEARS and years.
just try to figure out if your prepared for that before you try to home the animal and make a mess like this.

no one seems to actually care about the welfare of the animal. and usually people like this are repeat offenders. i can think of at least two offhand who do this on a regular basis then act righteous on the forum. drives me crazy holding my tongue.
lol, your cool .

[ReptileSeeker]

by the way, i went and lived in a dorm, then an apartment for years while i went to school. i didn't have this story. so don't act like "oooh going to schoooooool" is like, the end all to having to give up animals. please.
and what do you curently do, as in your job ?

[Will0W783]

I'm currently a graduate student...working on a Ph.D. I have precious little time and money; however, my animals are one of my top priorities. I do not spend lots of money on manicures, or fancy hairstyles, and I rarely go out drinking or to dinner. My money goes to my pets and to paying bills, and then whatever happens to be left over for the month goes into savings or I use a bit for myself.

Sure, it would be "easier" for me to sell off my rather large zoo of pets, but they bring me joy and are fascinating creatures. I decided to make the sacrifices that I needed to in order to enjoy having snakes and other exotics. My fiance understands, although at times it can strain our relationship when finances are tight and there's always someone that needs food, or a new cage, etc. I have sold animals in the past; I made sure they got good homes. At times when one has a large collection, one must make the decision to part with a few in order to better care for the remaining ones.

However, in your case ReptileSeeker, it sounds as though you have just the one monitor. I understand that they are time-consuming pets; they need lots of space and a good diet and a proper cage in order to thrive. But try to understand where us here on the forum are coming from too- there is nothing wrong with saying "I cannot, or don't want to, keep this lizard anymore, and am looking to sell him." But you need to be honest.

Basically, I'm just trying to impress upon you that where there's a will, there's a way. If you truly love your lizard, you can probably find a way to be able to keep him. It would likely mean making changes in other areas of your life though. If he isn't a priority, then that's your prerogative, but be clear about what you are looking for. Indicating a trade possibility when you can't manage to take care of the animal you already have is not a good sign.

[ReptileSeeker]

I'm currently a graduate student...working on a Ph.D. I have precious little time and money; however, my animals are one of my top priorities. I do not spend lots of money on manicures, or fancy hairstyles, and I rarely go out drinking or to dinner. My money goes to my pets and to paying bills, and then whatever happens to be left over for the month goes into savings or I use a bit for myself.

Sure, it would be "easier" for me to sell off my rather large zoo of pets, but they bring me joy and are fascinating creatures. I decided to make the sacrifices that I needed to in order to enjoy having snakes and other exotics. My fiance understands, although at times it can strain our relationship when finances are tight and there's always someone that needs food, or a new cage, etc. I have sold animals in the past; I made sure they got good homes. At times when one has a large collection, one must make the decision to part with a few in order to better care for the remaining ones.

However, in your case ReptileSeeker, it sounds as though you have just the one monitor. I understand that they are time-consuming pets; they need lots of space and a good diet and a proper cage in order to thrive. But try to understand where us here on the forum are coming from too- there is nothing wrong with saying "I cannot, or don't want to, keep this lizard anymore, and am looking to sell him." But you need to be honest.

Basically, I'm just trying to impress upon you that where there's a will, there's a way. If you truly love your lizard, you can probably find a way to be able to keep him. It would likely mean making changes in other areas of your life though. If he isn't a priority, then that's your prerogative, but be clear about what you are looking for. Indicating a trade possibility when you can't manage to take care of the animal you already have is not a good sign.
i have 8 leos, 6 beardies, ive had a male sal water monitor that was 8' + , i have 2 leachies, 2 tokays, and i love all my animals :D biscally i need the extra room for another project im about to start .

[Gungirl]

So you lied in the first post to see if you could get a fast buck for him?


That is what is sounds like anyways...

[blindfireak40]

So you lied in the first post to see if you could get a fast buck for him?


That is what is sounds like anyways...

My thoughts exactly...

[Will0W783]

See, there you go. You want to go in a different direction with your collection. That's a better way of phrasing it than "I just don't have time or money for this lizard."
Baby savannah monitors are absolutely adorable, and most of the online care sheets make ownership sound a lot less complicated than it actually is. Savs are temperamental and delicate, they need good dirt to dig in, accurate temps, varied diet (tons of debate on this), and time to tame them. Most people don't realize this when they get one, and they get in over their heads and then the savs end up on Craigslist or inappropriately cared for until they die.

This forum is honestly not a very good place to sell animals. We tend to stick with our pets if at all possible, so random selling isn't received well. You might be better off looking into getting an account with Fauna Classifieds to advertise him there, or attend a local reptile expo to look for a trade. Understand though, that savannah monitors do not carry much value in the reptile market because of the number of unwanted ones. A baby sav might go for $10-30 on Fauna or at a reptile expo. The vast majority of expense from a monitor lizard comes from its enclosure and supplies, most of which cannot easily be sold.

I wish you luck though. Just be careful that you are ready to take on another project, since you mentioned that school takes a lot of your time. It's easy to take on a bunch of different reptiles with great ideas of breeding and raising them, only to find after a few years that you were much happier with fewer animals to strain your time. You have a nice selection of lizards from your description. Take it sow, be honest with your market and best of luck.

[Will0W783]

I understand the frustration with the OP here....it does sound like a case of buyer's remorse. However, maybe we should not berate him too hard, or he will disappear and who knows if the sav will get to a proper home?

[ReptileSeeker]

I understand the frustration with the OP here....it does sound like a case of buyer's remorse. However, maybe we should not berate him too hard, or he will disappear and who knows if the sav will get to a proper home?
Yeah , and Thanks (last post)

[Gregg M]

ive had a male sal water monitor that was 8' +

Didnt someone here already tell you to be honest. Stop the bullshit aleady.

[KORBIN5895]

Didnt someone here already tell you to be honest. Stop the bullshit aleady.

Come on Gregg. We all know you can house one in the closet of your dorm room.

[Pirarucu]

ive had a male sal water monitor that was 8' +And I've had a salvadorii that was 15 feet. ;)

[lady_bug87]

Come on Gregg. We all know you can house one in the closet of your dorm room.

I have 2 words for you.

Shoe Box

[EmbraceCalamity]

I have 2 words for you.

Shoe BoxThat's what I keep my horse in. How did you know? =O

~Maggot

[KORBIN5895]

I have 2 words for you.

Shoe Box

You'd have to have some bloody big feet to fit an 8' monitor into your shoe box.

[Pirarucu]

You'd have to have some bloody big feet to fit an 8' monitor into your shoe box.But having a smaller cage makes them feel secure!

[lady_bug87]

You'd have to have some bloody big feet to fit an 8' monitor into your shoe box.

Pfft give me a pair of scissors and some masking tape and I can fit YOU in a shoe box

That's what I keep my horse in. How did you know? =O

~Maggot

I had my brother in one until he was 15

[EmbraceCalamity]

I had my brother in one until he was 15Hmmmm. My sister's 16...I think. Or maybe she's 17. I forget. Either way, think I can make her fit?

~Maggot

[lady_bug87]

Hmmmm. My sister's 16...I think. Or maybe she's 17. I forget. Either way, think I can make her fit?

~Maggot

probably... you just have to make sure the temps and humidity are all perfect. Siblings are hard to keep in captivity.


Back on Topic. I think the OP did the right thing by coming here. She doesn't want her pet(s) anymore. You guys gave her some info and where she could go to re-home it. I think its crappy that she has this animal that she took responsibility for and is giving it away, but then again some people treat their children worse.

[EmbraceCalamity]

probably... you just have to make sure the temps and humidity are all perfect. Siblings are hard to keep in captivity.


Back on Topic. I think the OP did the right thing by coming here. She doesn't want her pet(s) anymore. You guys gave her some info and where she could go to re-home it. I think its crappy that she has this animal that she took responsibility for and is giving it away, but then again some people treat their children worse.Well, the problem isn't that she's giving it away. She's looking for money. Furthermore, she claimed to not be able to afford it because she's in school, then later admitted she just needed money for a "new project" that she's working on. If she just came and said that she couldn't afford it and would rather see it go to someone who can take better care of it, and that it goes free with everything, then this would all be very different. I got a beardie when I was younger, but something came up and I felt I couldn't provide it with the best care, so I gave it to a friend who'd been looking for one along with its food, hides, lights, fixtures, supplements, enclosure, etc., and I didn't ask for a cent.

~Maggot

[lady_bug87]

That's true.. I'm still glad she came here.

[EmbraceCalamity]

That's true.. I'm still glad she came here.I hope the monitor finds a good home.

~Maggot

[jaleely]

Thank you for putting it in a very elegant and simple way, willow. I obviously could not. I got too irritated.

To the OP...i'm actually planning on going back to college in January. I paid my own way the first time through, and now i'm picking a different career. I had animals the entire time i lived in the dorm. I worked outside of the school, as well as through the school (they provide jobs for those that qualify if you ask the financial aid department).
Not that it matters.

You've explained now that you want to get some money and start a new project. *shrug* thank you for the honesty. I'm sure as you start new projects, then get tired of them and sell those animals, you will be able to continue school just fine.

[ReptileSeeker]

Didnt someone here already tell you to be honest. Stop the bullshit aleady.
i dont live in a dorm room , i live with my girlfriend in a 2 bedroom house .

[ReptileSeeker]

you guys are very funny , i never said i lived in a dorm room . hahahah , dont even know me . and im gettting two blue trees soon. bet you dont even have the money for one .

[KORBIN5895]

you guys are very funny , i never said i lived in a dorm room . hahahah , dont even know me . and im gettting two blue trees soon. bet you dont even have the money for one .

We may not know you but we do know you are a liar.

[ReptileSeeker]

We may not know you but we do know you are a liar.
okay , lol . but you are broke .

[iBaman]

at least we don't buy animals we're going to get sick of, and then try to get money out of them.

[ReptileSeeker]

at least we don't buy animals we're going to get sick of, and then try to get money out of them.

i didnt know i was talking to you ......

[Pirarucu]

When you can't win an argument and you know it, the first step anyone takes is to start calling names and slinging mud...

[ReptileSeeker]

at least we don't buy animals we're going to get sick of, and then try to get money out of them.

i didnt know i was talking to you.

[ReptileSeeker]

When you can't win an argument and you know it, the first step anyone takes is to start calling names and slinging mud...
please dont say anything else.

[KORBIN5895]

okay , lol . but you are broke .

You must be one stupid f***tard. Where would you come up with that? You must be angry because I called you a liar and can prove it.

[ReptileSeeker]

You must be one stupid f***tard. Where would you come up with that? You must be angry because I called you a liar and can prove it.
still talking ? lol , you must be mad because you are ignorant .

[KORBIN5895]

still talking ? lol , you must be mad because you are ignorant .

Bahahahah! I am not the one that looks like lying scum. How old are you really? 15-16?

[ReptileSeeker]

Bahahahah! I am not the one that looks like lying scum. How old are you really? 15-16?
lol , think what you want " village idiot " lol !