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ding ding
08-27-12, 01:38 AM
Hey guys, havnt posted here in a wee while so thought id throw up a few new pics of chainsaw. I dont really tend to name my snakes but this guy definitely lives up to his. I have tried all sorts to get this guy to calm down but he just hates me and will bite at any oppertunity...

I moved him into a new viv as he refused his last 2 meals and i thought it was down to humidity issues, as its been stupidly warm here, so i moved him from his wooden viv into a moulded plastic one with an extra big water dish an new bark. After one night in his new viv he banged 3 XL mice into him....

http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture010.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture005.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture006.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture008.jpg
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture009.jpg

thanks for looking...

moshirimon
08-27-12, 02:29 AM
Beautiful snake probably my favourite species.

ding ding
08-27-12, 03:21 AM
thanks mate, was my favourite species too... til i owned one lol

Slcburm
08-27-12, 03:23 AM
Nice looking snake but why mice? Looks like he can handle rats easily

ding ding
08-27-12, 03:51 AM
Nice looking snake but why mice? Looks like he can handle rats easily

Male greens are renouned fussy feeders that tend to get fixated on one prey item. For mine its mice, i have tried many a rat, warm, cold, brained, washed and rubbed with a load of mice, no interest whatsoever. Tried chicks too and he just turns his nose up at them.

Another green keeper i have been chatting to had the same issue with his but managed to get his onto baby guinea pigs and his boy now banging back 2 large guinea pigs a month so im gona try and source some and see if it works for mine. Just worried tho if he gets the taste for them and i cant get a steady supply he might not go back onto mice...

Slcburm
08-27-12, 04:37 AM
Awesome. Well good luck

MoreliAddict
08-27-12, 07:25 AM
Male greens are renouned fussy feeders that tend to get fixated on one prey item. For mine its mice, i have tried many a rat, warm, cold, brained, washed and rubbed with a load of mice, no interest whatsoever. Tried chicks too and he just turns his nose up at them.

Another green keeper i have been chatting to had the same issue with his but managed to get his onto baby guinea pigs and his boy now banging back 2 large guinea pigs a month so im gona try and source some and see if it works for mine. Just worried tho if he gets the taste for them and i cant get a steady supply he might not go back onto mice...
Either way isn't it best to put something like that on rabbits? Can it handle a small bunny?

Awesome snake.

shaunyboy
08-27-12, 07:28 AM
i love the eyes on anaconda's

great looking conda you got there mate

cheers shaun

marvelfreak
08-27-12, 07:53 AM
Hey how big is he now? I bet anything he biting because he always hungry. Offer him one small rat a week and nothing else. When he gets hungry enough he'll eat it. As long as you had him he should be easily downing rats. I personally would never feed mice to a anaconda. My yellow started rat pups. He looking good btw.

ding ding
08-27-12, 09:12 AM
Either way isn't it best to put something like that on rabbits? Can it handle a small bunny?

Awesome snake.

Yea thats what im gona try or baby guinea pigs but like i said i dont really have a steady supply so if he gets the taste for other prey and the supply runs out and he doesnt go back on the mice il be well fooked... Catch22

i love the eyes on anaconda's

great looking conda you got there mate

cheers shaun

thanks mate, they do look so innocent, just a pity mines not...


Hey how big is he now? I bet anything he biting because he always hungry. Offer him one small rat a week and nothing else. When he gets hungry enough he'll eat it. As long as you had him he should be easily downing rats. I personally would never feed mice to a anaconda. My yellow started rat pups. He looking good btw.

He hasnt done too much growing mate tbh. I highly doubt the biting is hunger, my money is on him just being super defensive. He is a WC and he has some terrible scarring down his left flank behind the head about 4 inches long and an inch high and a lot of other scarring further down his body that doesnt show on the pics. i will try and get some that show the extent of it, tbh im surprised hes even alive, there must have been some hole in his neck to scar like that.

He has had a terrible time of it before i got him, and was already started on mice before he came to me. I had no issues converting the yellow over so thought how hard can it be, turns out very!

I have tried allsorts but he has no interest in anything but mice, even starved him for over a month, offered nice warm rat and nothing, didnt entertain it in the slightest. The only thing i havnt tried is skinning a mouse and wrapping the skin round the rat but i need to invest in a scalple for that.

Hes just a downright fussy feeder, even when i offer multiple mice, he sometimes eats them all and sometimes just the one.

Just cant win with this guy...

MoreliAddict
08-27-12, 09:14 AM
but like i said i dont really have a steady supply so if he gets the taste for other prey and the supply runs out and he doesnt go back on the mice il be well fooked... Catch22

Frozen Mice, Frozen Rats, Rabbits, Guinea Pigs, Chicks and Quail (http://rodentpro.com)

ding ding
08-27-12, 09:16 AM
Frozen Mice, Frozen Rats, Rabbits, Guinea Pigs, Chicks and Quail (http://rodentpro.com)

Im in Northern Ireland mate, dont think they deliver here!

MoreliAddict
08-27-12, 09:21 AM
Im in Northern Ireland mate, dont think they deliver here!
:wacky: Sorry!

ding ding
08-27-12, 09:27 AM
:wacky: Sorry!

Tis all good mate, you just tryin to help, would be some delivery charge all the same lol...

I have a guy i get my stuff in bulk off, all standard issue stuff like mice, rats, and chicks. He does get in other things like quale(sp), rabbits guinea pigs and a few other random things but they seem to come in batches, there for a while then you cant get them again.

Will give it a go tho, hopefully be ok...

marvelfreak
08-27-12, 06:49 PM
I just had a thought could you post a couple pictures of his cage. One that show his whole inside of his set up?

exwizard
08-27-12, 07:05 PM
I wish I could keep Condas here. They are so beautiful

rmfsnakes32
08-27-12, 09:15 PM
He is very pretty how big will he get I read somewhere they have caught them in the wild and they were like 20ft and a few hundred pounds

ding ding
08-28-12, 01:24 AM
I just had a thought could you post a couple pictures of his cage. One that show his whole inside of his set up?

Just seen this post mate, i have just started work here but il take some tonight and get them up tomorrow for ya...

I wish I could keep Condas here. They are so beautiful

Yea man i love them like, cute wee faces lol. Pity they are banned where you are, they do make interesting pets lol...

He is very pretty how big will he get I read somewhere they have caught them in the wild and they were like 20ft and a few hundred pounds

Thanks mate, i reckon he should max around the 12ft mark. Males dont get nowhere near as big as the females, they are the true monsters. But they are slow growers, nothing like retic or burm growth rates...

marvelfreak
08-28-12, 06:33 PM
Just seen this post mate, i have just started work here but il take some tonight and get them up tomorrow for ya...

Cool. Can't wait.

Robyn@SYR
08-28-12, 07:51 PM
Impressive snake!

ding ding
08-29-12, 01:05 AM
Cool. Can't wait.

Here ya go sir, as promised...

this is the viv 3x2x2 penine moulded plastic...
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture021.jpg

this is the warm side, using the water to keep humidity up and have tried to cover it as best i can to try and entice him into the water without feeling too exposed...
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture019.jpg

this is the cool side, nice wee hide with plenty of cover, and tried to leave a wee trail of foilage along the back wall so he can move between both ends without being exposed.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/dingding83/green%20annie%20new/Picture017.jpg

The substrate is orchid bark and is deep enough for him to completely submerge himself in...

Impressive snake!

thanks man...

marvelfreak
08-31-12, 04:52 PM
The reason a asked for picture of your set up is i wanted to see how much stuff was in the cage. A couple years ago i read about a breeder in England who was having problems with aggressive Anacondas. so he try a couple things to see if he could tame them down some. The one thing he found that worked best and he swore by his was no hides.

He took all hides out of the cages only leaving the water bowl. He then made the substrate deeper. Where they could cover most of their body. He made it were the top of the water bowl was only a couple inches above the substrate. He found they would burrow more like being in the water with just their head poking out. With in a month or so he noticed they were not as defensive and not as ready to bite. I know it sound backwards from every thing we ever been told about snake sand hides. He said have a few months they all had mellow out and were so much easier to handle.

I wish i could find the thing but the site it was on is no longer around. It might be worth trying just to see if it works.

Gatorhunter1231
09-02-12, 04:41 PM
cool another anaconda keeper. Her is my little girl I just got and she is wc. Eats everything under the sun.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/peaches3.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/peaches2.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/peaches.jpg

I have only ever had one pissy green anaconda that would never calm down. It was a male and something bite its tail off. Her some of my others when I was younger.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/reptiles/biggin.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/reptiles/three.jpg

ps: mine likes leaf litter to crawl around and hide in.

rmfsnakes32
09-02-12, 07:03 PM
Thats a very nice looking a viv!

ding ding
09-03-12, 02:08 AM
The reason a asked for picture of your set up is i wanted to see how much stuff was in the cage. A couple years ago i read about a breeder in England who was having problems with aggressive Anacondas. so he try a couple things to see if he could tame them down some. The one thing he found that worked best and he swore by his was no hides.

He took all hides out of the cages only leaving the water bowl. He then made the substrate deeper. Where they could cover most of their body. He made it were the top of the water bowl was only a couple inches above the substrate. He found they would burrow more like being in the water with just their head poking out. With in a month or so he noticed they were not as defensive and not as ready to bite. I know it sound backwards from every thing we ever been told about snake sand hides. He said have a few months they all had mellow out and were so much easier to handle.

I wish i could find the thing but the site it was on is no longer around. It might be worth trying just to see if it works.

Thanks for the advice man, i have heard of this technique being used with other species but never with the condas.

I first read about it being used with WC red tailed racers but never tried using it myself as with being such a shy species you naturally pack the viv out with lots of plants and hides. This did work well for me but i hardly ever seen my girl, always hiding, never really out and about.

I got my 1st mite breakout recently and stripped out the vivs to the bare minimum, paper substrate, a perch and a waterbowl and after a couple of weeks she is now one of the most active snakes i have, always out and about doing something, climbing and falling lol about her viv and she actually let me watch her eat last weekend and thats the 1st time i have seen her eat since i have owned her, have had to leave overnight for every other feed so yea there is definitely benefits from this method.

During the outbreak i had the conda set up the same way, bare minimum, paper, waterbowl and thats it. He tried to shed but due to the scarring on him he cannot shed himself so i had to intervine as he had his head off but the rest just wasnt coming.

I pulled him out, he coiled tightly round my hand and i sat there in disbelief as he let me dip him in luke warm water and peel the rest of his skin off. This whole process took around a solid half hour of me basically poking, prodding and pulling at him and through all this he didnt even attempt to nip me once, it was like he kinda understood what was happening and i thought finally, a breakthrough.

I thought that was the turning point, everything gona be good from here on in. Next handling session, full of confidence, set up still the same and as soon as i picked him up BANG! Nailed several times, thought mabye woke him up or spooked him something. Next sessions after that i staggered at different times of the day/night to see if there was any difference but no, nailed several times everytime so i just resigned myself to the fact hes never gona be friendly.

I will give this method a go and keep trying but i dont hold very much hope of him changing his ways...

cool another anaconda keeper. Her is my little girl I just got and she is wc. Eats everything under the sun.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/peaches3.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/peaches2.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/peaches.jpg

I have only ever had one pissy green anaconda that would never calm down. It was a male and something bite its tail off. Her some of my others when I was younger.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/reptiles/biggin.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Gatorhunter/reptiles/three.jpg

ps: mine likes leaf litter to crawl around and hide in.

YAY! Im not tho only lunatic keeping greens lol... that young female is gorgeous mate, good luck with her...

Looks like some nice big ones you have worked with too, feel free to post more pics if you have them, never get tired of looking at condas...

And yea man like your guy with the tail missing, with the injuries that my guy has sustained i think the damage has been done and i dont hold much hope for him ever being nice lol...

Thats a very nice looking a viv!

thanks man!