boa constrictor species?

[razor12345678]

Can any one help me choose a boa constrictor species to get, that would stay under 7 feet, if u have a suggestion, i would like to know the care:confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed::confused:

[Wildside]

How far does your snake experience go?

[snake man12]

Dumerils boa, Hog Island Boa,. These two species have similar care requirements temperature and humidity being only slightly different. They are both hardy and docile snakes. Dums stay around 5 to six feet some getting seven but that is unusual. A hog island will get about the same size as a dum.

[Gruesome]

How about a dwarf boa? I have a 6 year old that's fully grown at around 5 foot

[snake man12]

A hog island is a dwarf boa. =]

[Gruesome]

Ahh, I'm new to this game. Thanks for putting me straight

[moshirimon]

Try a nicaraguan boa. They are the smallest i believe. can be tempermental though

or peruvian long tails?

[Wildside]

Most boas don't get a whole lot bigger that 7 ft. So I'm wonder if maybe you are looking for something with less girth vs. length?

[razor12345678]

i was looking at some nics but i was wondering how big of a cage they need, which one stay in a 40 gallon breeder?

[razor12345678]

and i have had 1 red eared slider (big aquatic turtle), leopard gecko, and 1 ball python

[snake man12]

Nics are notorious for bad attitudes. It would definetly need a viv bigger than a 40.

[Wildside]

I think you should look for a male bci

[snake man12]

Yeah or a male dumerils.

[Wildside]

Yep or a BRB since this one isn't a complete noob to reptiles.

[Rogue628]

I agree with those that suggest dumerils. They stay around that length although they can be a bit heavy-bodied, they're hardy animals, have easy husbandry, and are a docile, easy to handle animal. I got my two as rescues, and even in their poor condition, were very gentle easy going snakes. IMO, they also have a really nice pattern that's not really common.

[Jay]

i was looking at some nics but i was wondering how big of a cage they need, which one stay in a 40 gallon breeder?

You could keep any species of boa constructors you want in a 40g

[razor12345678]

i am not a noob..lol i was really hoping for a boa constrinctor, how about a guyana and will a hog nose stay in 40 gallon for its whole life?

[snake man12]

Hog island you mean? And jay I know you have a lot of experience but would you put a 9 foot suri in a 40? Also dumerils are boa constrictors.

[razor12345678]

lol my bad, and i was talking about the brb lol,so do male bci get upto 9 feet? also do u know the care of a Peruvian long tailed boa

[snake man12]

No male bci don't get nine feet that was to prove a point to Jay/
Long tails get bigger than bci. And there temperament is a little shady.

[razor12345678]

ohh so how big does a bci stay at adn will it live happily in a 40g breeder and are dumerils boa care the same as a bci only they stay smaller?

[razor12345678]

so hog islands are good in a 40g breeder too

[Jay]

Can't I have a little fun?

I'll stick to my original statement, heck you could cram a anaconda in a 40g if you were determined.

To the op stay away from boas if you're stuck for space.

[Jay]

ohh so how big does a bci stay at adn will it live happily in a 40g breeder and are dumerils boa care the same as a bci only they stay smaller?

For not being a noob that's an odd question.

[razor12345678]

idk i am just getting in the boa world...iam a boa noob i guess lol...........so just list me what boas can fit in a 40g breeder

[Jay]

The list would be huge, your choices are endless.

[snake man12]

Hogg Island Boa Caresheet (Boa constrictor imperator) (http://www.herpcenter.com/reptile-caresheets/hogg-island-boa.html)
Dumerils Boa Care Sheet (http://www.moonlightboas.com/care-info/care-sheets/dumerils-boa-care-sheet.php)

[snake man12]

I would not put any variety of boa constrictor in an aquarium at all>

[razor12345678]

so i could get a dumerils ,hog island boa and a male bci?

[snake man12]

Yes those would all be good choices

[razor12345678]

what do u mean, so a rack system?

[snake man12]

No a tub or a custom enclosure or a rack system. Your choice but aquariums are bad for most snakes.

[razor12345678]

why is that?

[razor12345678]

how bug of a tub

[razor12345678]

how big of a tub?

[Wildside]

Easy there big boy, let's firgure out what you want first ;)

[razor12345678]

lol i have narrowed to a dumerils or a bci, is glass better or plastic tub?

[snake man12]

Depends on the snake. A six footer would probably need a 189qrt. Don't use an aquarium.

[razor12345678]

where would i get 189 qrt tub with lid from?

[Wildside]

where would i get 189 qrt tub with lid from?

Id' like to know too! I wasn't aware they were made that big.

[snake man12]

I have seen them up to 350 qrt at ollies discount store.

[razor12345678]

how about a exoterra, i wanted a tank where i can look at my snake, not being a eye swore

[razor12345678]

so male bci would need like a 36x18x24?

[Wildside]

so male bci would need like a 36x18x24?

You could easily do a custom that is 4'x2'x2'

[Ivalynfyre]

that sounds much too small, considering male BCIs get 6+ feet.
You can see your snakes through tubs, and IMO they aren't an eyesore..

[snake man12]

6ft+ is very unusual. I agree custom 4by2by2 is an appropriate size for most boa constrictor species.

[Wildside]

that sounds much too small, considering male BCIs get 6+ feet.
You can see your snakes through tubs, and IMO they aren't an eyesore..

I don't know of many males that have gotten over 5 tbh and even a 5 ft. would be alright in that size. Feel free to ask anyone who keeps them in a 74 qt. tub rack system.

[snake man12]

So what are you thinking?

[razor12345678]

so for 5 ft snake isnt a 40g breeder enough?

[Wildside]

So what are you thinking?

I'm thinking this guy needs to do some good DIY Enclosure research because once he becomes addicted he's gonna have a problem, lol.

[snake man12]

It is plenty but glass aquariums are not the best choices in that that they don't hold humidity well and they don't hold temp well either as well as providing less security for the snake.

[Wildside]

so for 5 ft snake isnt a 40g breeder enough?


That 40 breeder is a better home for your turtle

[snake man12]

Agreed....

[razor12345678]

lol he is in a 75

[razor12345678]

how about a 50 g for a bci male:cool:

[Ivalynfyre]

I don't know of many males that have gotten over 5 tbh and even a 5 ft. would be alright in that size. Feel free to ask anyone who keeps them in a 74 qt. tub rack system.

My mistake, I thought they got around 6ft.

[Wildside]

The dimensions on a 40 breeder are roughly 36"x16"x18". I'm not sure that enough floor space for an adult male bci

[snake man12]

They can on occasion. A 50 would be fine size wise.

[Wildside]

how about a 50 g for a bci male:cool:


Do you understand how much easier and cheaper it's gonna be to custom build a 4'x2'x2'?

[snake man12]

All my snakes are in 4by2by2 including my dumerils boa and my hog island boa

[Wildside]

All my snakes are in 4by2by2 including my dumerils boa and my hog island boa

They fit nice too don't they?

[snake man12]

Wonderfully.

[razor12345678]

yeah but ik this place (in canada that sells them for really cheap) like a 40 is 50 dollars and 50 is 60 dollars, or i can go on kijiji (canadian website, and get it for 30-40 dollars

[Wildside]

I currently have my big female stuffed in one. While she can't stretch out completely she doesn't appear cramped. When was the last time anyone saw a snake stretch completely out anyway?

[Wildside]

yeah but ik this place (in canada that sells them for really cheap) like a 40 is 50 dollars and 50 is 60 dollars, or i can go on kijiji (canadian website, and get it for 30-40 dollars

Wouldn't you rather have a nice, big, custom, beautiful piece of furniture for that price?

[snake man12]

Well my hog still has some growing into so he stretches out lol.
A 50gal would be better than the forty so if you can't get a custom get the fifty.
But \please if you can get a 4by2by2,

[razor12345678]

i will thx guys helped alot!!

[snake man12]

Any time. Update us on what species your getting.

[razor12345678]

a dumerils or a nicaraguan

[snake man12]

Good choices. Have fun with them.

[KORBIN5895]

I honestly can't believe all of the terrible info being thrown out there like its a law of the universe. I have no ideas where to even begin so I will keep it basic.

Your snake needs a minimum of 1'sq of floor space for every foot of snake. So honestly a 55 gallon (48"lx13"wx18"h) is only good for a 4' snake.

I personally had a male bci that was three years old when I got him and 52". In 8 months he grew to 5.5+ feet.

There is no way he is going to build a nice 4x2x2 enclosure to $60 in Canada. The plywood will cost $45-$125 dollars alone. The vernier edging will be $10 and tempered glass is $8+ a square foot .

@op
I think this is a step you should think long and hard on. I just got a 7'+ female and she is truly an amazing snake. The downside is she is 7'+. She is calm and gentle yet she still is a danger to my family. Are you ready for that responsibility? Are you ready to pay big bucks for feeders? My girl can easily eat a 4-5lb rabbit.

As I mentioned before the caging will not be cheap. Your local pet stores are going to charge you an arm and a leg for large feeders. Are you financially ready for this? Do you want to deal with a pile of poop bigger than yours?

If you are comfortable with these questions then by all means do it! I love boas but the longer I have them the more I realize how much responsibility they are. Good luck and touch base with Trent or Jay they are our resident boa experts(IMO).

[Wildside]

I honestly can't believe all of the terrible info being thrown out there like its a law of the universe. I have no ideas where to even begin so I will keep it basic.

Your snake needs a minimum of 1'sq of floor space for every foot of snake. So honestly a 55 gallon (48"lx13"wx18"h) is only good for a 4' snake.

I personally had a male bci that was three years old when I got him and 52". In 8 months he grew to 5.5+ feet.

There is no way he is going to build a nice 4x2x2 enclosure to $60 in Canada. The plywood will cost $45-$125 dollars alone. The vernier edging will be $10 and tempered glass is $8+ a square foot .

@op
I think this is a step you should think long and hard on. I just got a 7'+ female and she is truly an amazing snake. The downside is she is 7'+. She is calm and gentle yet she still is a danger to my family. Are you ready for that responsibility? Are you ready to pay big bucks for feeders? My girl can easily eat a 4-5lb rabbit.

As I mentioned before the caging will not be cheap. Your local pet stores are going to charge you an arm and a leg for large feeders. Are you financially ready for this? Do you want to deal with a pile of poop bigger than yours?

If you are comfortable with these questions then by all means do it! I love boas but the longer I have them the more I realize how much responsibility they are. Good luck and touch base with Trent or Jay they are our resident boa experts(IMO).

A 50 Breeder has different dimensions than a 55 allowing for more sq. ft. and you'll have to overlook the fact that I'm not familiar with the prices of Canadian lumber. Other than that I don't really think there was any "terrible" advice given to the OP at all.

[KORBIN5895]

I would not put any variety of boa constrictor in an aquarium at all>

No a tub or a custom enclosure or a rack system. Your choice but aquariums are bad for most snakes.

They can on occasion. A 50 would be fine size wise.

I currently have my big female stuffed in one. While she can't stretch out completely she doesn't appear cramped. When was the last time anyone saw a snake stretch completely out anyway?

Well my hog still has some growing into so he stretches out lol.
A 50gal would be better than the forty so if you can't get a custom get the fifty.
But \please if you can get a 4by2by2,



Okay so maybe not terrible but definitely not good advice or it was unexplained. Also thanks to this so derful tool called "Google" a 50 gallon breeder has a floor space of 36"x18" which is food for a 4.5' snake.

[Wildside]

Okay so maybe not terrible but definitely not good advice or it was unexplained. Also thanks to this so derful tool called "Google" a 50 gallon breeder has a floor space of 36"x18" which is food for a 4.5' snake.

Let's be clear... I do not have my big female stuffed in a 50 breeder. She's in a 4'x2'x2' and is around 7 ft. FTR I tried to steer this guy away from a tank through the whole thread.

[KORBIN5895]

My girl is in a 4'x2'x2' also and she is over 7'. It is ridiculous. I will be making new enclosures next spring. I let her out every evening for a roam.

[Wildside]

My girl is in a 4'x2'x2' also and she is over 7'. It is ridiculous. I will be making new enclosures next spring. I let her out every evening for a roam.

I am making new enclosures next month. I don't believe I said she's not cramped at all. I think I said "not too cramped". My point was that a snake under 7 ft. would be just fine in that size enclosure. Mine gets a stretch every weekend. I haven't worked out the exact dimensions that I want yet but I'm gonna be building a few rack systems and a few big cages. In the interest of not wasting space (aka being able to house more snakes :D ) I'm gonna go with less head room and more floor space. Right now I'm thinking 6'x1.5'x2'. I should actually start a thread and get some feedback/inspiration for my "Reptile House" project.

[razor12345678]

.......but dont u think a 50 gallon breeder is good for a male dumerils? and custom cages are way to expensive in canada, that is if i want a big a nice one!

[KORBIN5895]

Isn't a male dum over 4.5' ? If so question answered.

[razor12345678]

then wat is minimum for a male dum?

[snake man12]

The maximum is 6 feet but there are the occasional monsters like with all other boas. 5o is simply not good if you want a snake that can fit in a 50 get a ball python.

[Wildside]

The maximum is 6 feet but there are the occasional monsters like with all other boas. 5o is simply not good if you want a snake that can fit in a 50 get a ball python.


Put your current BP in there and get a Rosy Boa to fill his cage.

Problemsolved.jpg

[snake man12]

Bamo problem solved.

[moshirimon]

No male bci don't get nine feet that was to prove a point to Jay/
Long tails get bigger than bci. And there temperament is a little shady.

from what i've heard, Long tails do not get bigger. I'm pretty sure biggest they get is around 6 foot theyre not as heavy bodied as the BCI's either.

[snake man12]

from what i've heard, Long tails do not get bigger. I'm pretty sure biggest they get is around 6 foot theyre not as heavy bodied as the BCI's either.

Fallacy...

[KORBIN5895]

from what i've heard, Long tails do not get bigger. I'm pretty sure biggest they get is around 6 foot theyre not as heavy bodied as the BCI's either.

Now if I would have said that I would've been called a douche...

[moshirimon]

Fallacy...

So on average peruvian long tails get bigger than your common boa? Maybe the occasional monster, but I've never seen that.

[moshirimon]

Now if I would have said that I would've been called a douche...

Guys you might be thinking of peruvian BCC, i'm talking about boa longicauda

[snake man12]

I may have mispokthey can get bigger than bci but usually stay the same size. Sorry I sounded like an a..hole.

[moshirimon]

I may have mispokthey can get bigger than bci but usually stay the same size. Sorry I sounded like an a..hole.

Cooool no worries!
I thought they usually stayed a bit smaller, may have been wrong. they definitely grow slower, that might of been what mixed me up.

Someone has to clear this up lol


Now if I would have said that I would've been called a douche...
Not sure what you mean by that.

[snake man12]

They have a lower metabolism due to cooler temps. That's why they grow slower.

[Wildside]

Now if I would have said that I would've been called a douche...

Salve?????

[rmfsnakes32]

If you want one that stays small go with a male boa they are always smaller than the female but as mentioned above dums are good starters my starter was my female columbian red tail I did my homework and am fully aware of how big she will get I have a almost 4 year old central american and she is dang near 7 ft

[Jay]

If you want one that stays small go with a male boa they are always smaller than the female but as mentioned above dums are good starters my starter was my female columbian red tail I did my homework and am fully aware of how big she will get I have a almost 4 year old central american and she is dang near 7 ft

When will people learn...Colomobia not Columbia. Judging by the spelling I highly doubt it's a bcc colombian, (a true red tail.)

Not that's it's completely your fault

[Wildside]

When will people learn...Colomobia not Columbia. Judging by the spelling I highly doubt it's a bcc colombian, (a true red tail.)

Not that's it's completely your fault

Listen here Mr. Tail Color Cop, If you're gonna play spelling police too you really gotta learn how to spell :crazy:

[exwizard]

Ok sitting back and reading all this makes me even more determined to take that pic. You guys decide for yourselves at that time.

[Wildside]

You know that was a typo. ;)

Right, but when you're policing someone else's spelling it is imperative that you properly spell and type the word you are trying to correct.

[exwizard]

Right, but when you're policing someone else's spelling it is imperative that you properly spell and type the word you are trying to correct.

I understand and I agree. It was funny.

[Jay]

Listen here Mr. Tail Color Cop, If you're gonna play spelling police too you really gotta learn how to spell :crazy:

Indeed, I have know idea why I had an extra "o" in there, wierd.

Obviously, it was a mistake.

[razor12345678]

lol look wat this thread has turned into....

[exwizard]

She looks like my columbian red tail boa who is double het for pink salmon and het for hypo

Rmf can I see a pic of your boa?


When will people learn...Colomobia not Columbia. Judging by the spelling I highly doubt it's a bcc colombian, (a true red tail.)

Not that's it's completely your fault
Ok I hope these pics put an end to all doubt and if not I will upload the paperwork indicating her genetics.

[snake man12]

That is a beautiful boa!!!

[Jay]

Ok I hope these pics put an end to all doubt and if not I will upload the paperwork indicating her genetics.

I'm not referring to your bci...

[snake man12]

I'm not referring to your bci...

Wait does he mean that is a bcc?

[moshirimon]

Ok I hope these pics put an end to all doubt and if not I will upload the paperwork indicating her genetics.



Looks like a BCI. A very nice one too

[snake man12]

It is a very clean and straight cut one and I want it!!

[razor12345678]

i just got my Colombian red tail!!!!! and he is like 14 inches long!!!! the breeder said he is a bcc, but in my opinion he looks like a bci, just because of his saddles

[Wildside]

i just got my Colombian red tail!!!!! and he is like 14 inches long!!!! the breeder said he is a bcc, but in my opinion he looks like a bci, just because of his saddles

Pics, Man! Must post pics.

[snake man12]

Yes pics or it didn't happen!

[razor12345678]

I have to wait until he settles in his new enclosure...I don't think has ever went in his cool hide!

[razor12345678]

Here r some pics of him in his cage

[razor12345678]

Here is another one, I will handle him in the next day or two

[hodder]

amazon tree boas are usaully under 7 feet i recently got one my self shes a very cool snake

[Wildside]

amazon tree boas are usaully under 7 feet i recently got one my self shes a very cool snake


They're also usually evil

[Jay]

Here is another one, I will handle him in the next day or two

I wouldn't say that is a bcc, just another nice looking bci.
Hopfully you didn't pay for a red tail.

[Jay]

They're also usually evil

At least they're inaccurate.

[Wildside]

At least they're inaccurate.


LOL! Too True

[razor12345678]

I paid 60 Canadian dollars about 55-57 usd

[rmfsnakes32]

Thats a good deal I paid $80 for mine and since she was my 1st they threw in an enclosure to help me get started they are awesome people and as a result we have stayed friends I even got my argentine boa from them as well he is the most calm and laid back snake I use him in teaching demos at my kids school he loves being held and doesnt mind in the least being handled my multiple people and kids boas are wonderful of all my snakes my boas are my favorite but I love all my kiddos

[Jay]

I paid 60 Canadian dollars about 55-57 usd

That's good.

[razor12345678]

He was asking 100 but I bargained him to 60 lol

[snake man12]

Even better.

[rmfsnakes32]

Good luck on the new boa you will enjoy for many years to come your a lucky person I dont care what others might think but snakes do have a way of calming you after a long day

[razor12345678]

Thanks hopefully he is tame