RTB or Coastal Carpet

[herpchick]

Ok so i work at a petstore and i had brought home a BRB over the weekend as my new snake but had to take it back due to severe problems keeping humidity up enough for the little guy. :-(

So now i am looking at either a RTB or Coastal Carpet but wanted some input on what you all recommend ive always liked RTBs but wasnt ready for one at first so i got a ball. But now i am ready to take on a new snake i wanted a male im either as they get big but not nearly as large as some females. Can you also tell me how large some of your RTBs and Coastals are as adults? The distributor said rtb males tend to stay around the 6-7 foot mark and i read its about the same for male coastals as well. I know the RTBs are easier on my pocket though.

[KORBIN5895]

Boas all the way! My three year old bci is about 5.5 feet long.

[red ink]

What do you want from your new snake?

I have no experience in Boas... do they behave differently to carpets?

[herpchick]

I want something that will be super tame that i can drag out to petstores and work or just sit with me and watch tv or play video games. But i also want it to be a midsized snake kinda like my bp was.

[alessia55]

RTBs and Carpets will get bigger than a ball python. Carpets are much more active, and you probably won't get to just lounge around with a carpet. Some RTBs are more calm and you can do that with them- but they are much larger than a ball python... both as far as length and girth.

Since you mentioned you used to have a ball python... why not get another? What happened to your first one?

Also, both RTBs and Carpets will need larger enclosures than what you would get for a BRB or a BP. So you'll have to take that into consideration. Also, RTBs and Carpets also need higher-than-room-humidity levels (meaning, you'll have to deal with raising the humidity in their enclosures). You mentioned having trouble doing this with your BRB. What was the issue? What kind of enclosure did you have? What techniques did you try? What was the highest you could get the humidity to go?

[herpchick]

I know both species will be larger than my bp was. ;)

BPs are cool and all but honestly im just bored with them right now - constantly hiding, going off feed for months at a time... I mean he was an awesome snake but again i have ALWAYS wanted a RTB or larger snake but it wasnt an option when i first got my BP. I ended up rehoming him as i dont have space for another tank i would love to have 2 but my hubby said i can have 2 (and only 2) when we get a house :)

Yes I understand they will need a larger enclosure. I can manage higher than room temp humidity but everything i read for neonate BRB required 75+ humidity. I could only keep it at 50-60%. I tried covering the cage, moss, water, and im not home enough to mist ALL day. I have a glass aquarium with a screen top in a basement. But I also used to soak my BP an hour a day when he went into shed mode.

[moshirimon]

Personally I prefer boas over pythons. Alot more muscle tone, I like their "loaf of bread" shaped bodies, and i like the way they "cling" onto you with extreme power. not saying the pythons dont have this power but they seem to be more chilling, or hanging when you handle them. A 6-7 foot RTB will eat larger prey than a 6-7 foot carpet so altough RTBS may be easier on your pocket to buy the actual animal, they cost more to feed. Carpets are a bit too slender for my liking but still a really cool animal and i'd say if size is an issue go with a carpet. plus I hear they grow reallly slow.

Also there are boas that stay smaller, check out Hogg Islands, Nicaraguans, and i'm sure theres more

[exwizard]

A Boa would probably be your best bet. Humidity isnt as much of an issue with them as with BRBs or BPs. They are calmer more handleable snakes as well. They also get to be around 6-7' for a male depending on the locality. There are some Boas that get bigger than that but you should be able to find a locality that fits your needs. Btw BCIs are specifically what you need since they dont get as big as BCCs.

[alessia55]

Yes I understand they will need a larger enclosure. I can manage higher than room temp humidity but everything i read for neonate BRB required 75+ humidity. I could only keep it at 50-60%. I tried covering the cage, moss, water, and im not home enough to mist ALL day. I have a glass aquarium with a screen top in a basement. But I also used to soak my BP an hour a day when he went into shed mode.

Part of your problem is that glass enclosure with a screen top in the basement. You'll find that you'll have the same problem with an RTB or a carpet. I suggest you get an enclosure that will support humidity, such as the ones from Animal Plastics, Boaphile, etc. The glass ones (tanks, etc) are awful for keeping humidity. Plus an RTB or a carpet will benefit from a non-glass enclosure too. So that's something you might want to look into before you get your new snake :) Putting the enclosure somewhere where there is better humidity, like a bedroom rather than the basement, will also help your cause.

Other than that, if you can get that larger enclosure that will hold humidity well, either snakes will be a good choice. A carpet will need a semi-aboreal enclosure (though other carpet experts on here will be able to tell you more about that). From what you mentioned, like I said before, an RTB is going to be more relaxed than a carpet python. :)

(Kind of irrelevant since you no longer have a BP, but soaking your BP for an hour a day while in shed is unnecessary and can even be damaging to the BP to be in water for that long. A snake will soak itself in its own water dish if it needs to, but those prolonged baths aren't good for them.)

[Strutter769]

Two words: Boa Constrictor

Ok, so I'm somewhat biased, but that's my suggestion and I'm stickin' to it!

Get a "True" Red-Tailed Boa. A locality. Surinam, Peruvian Pacullpa, Guyana.. just a few examples.

[herpchick]

It was going to be of the columbian locality

[Strutter769]

Colombians are great too! Lucy's been with me since 1996! I wouldn't trade her for the world. Care to meet her? :smug: http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/boa-constrictor/90403-profile-lucy.html

[KORBIN5895]

I recant my suggestion and feel you should wait. If you got bored with your royal I guarantee you will get bored with just about any other boid. Maybe you should try a garter snake. That's my next species.

[Rogue628]

I have both and each are great animals with great temperaments. In all honesty, you can't go wrong with either. Husbandry is a tad bit easier with a carpet as they have no humidity requirements, as Shauny on here told me when I first got mine. Both are great eaters and easy to handle as an adult. I don't have any experience with carpet hatchlings, but BCI hatchlings are usually docile (all of mine were).

It's going to come down to what you're looking for in an animal. If you want one that's got a really good chance of being mellow, one that you can chill out with, go boa. If you want one that thinks it's in a new world each time you get it out, giving you hours of entertainment by never sitting still, or at least for long, making you the mommy of a toddler (because you can't let them go, they get into everything! lol), go carpet. IMHO, carpets have a better personality because of their more curious behavior. Boas are curious, but I don't think it beats the carpets curiosity.

I had a hard time deciding when I got my BCI because I wanted a carpet around the same time too. I chose BCI because of initial affordability and I already had previous experience with them so I knew what to expect. The carpet pretty much fell into my lap as a guy I know wanted to rehome his. She's an adult (unsure of age) and is as much of a delight to interact with as the boa, maybe more so. Her antics outside the cage always make me smile and gives me the giggles. My boa will watch movies with me lol.

Good luck with whatever you decide to get. It's a tough decision.

[hellosugaree]

Carpet carpet carpet carpet carpet. All the way, end of story ;)

[jaleely]

I don't know how to say this where it won't be offensive, but i think if you're getting any animal, and then having to give it up for any reason...maybe you shouldn't get any more.
If you think you do truly want another snake though, at least go to the pound or a rescue and see if there's one there you can adopt, rather than buying one from a breeder or store and then possibly having to rehome that one as well in the future.

I have a lot of animals and though i'd love more, i also know I don't want to be place myself in a situation where i have to give one or more up. I got the animal, i agree to take care of it and house it, so....
Why would you get another animal if you've already gotten rid of one as it is?
Is it just because you *want* something? That's not very fair to the critter. Just saying.

[Trollbie]

I don't know how to say this where it won't be offensive, but i think if you're getting any animal, and then having to give it up for any reason...maybe you shouldn't get any more.
If you think you do truly want another snake though, at least go to the pound or a rescue and see if there's one there you can adopt, rather than buying one from a breeder or store and then possibly having to rehome that one as well in the future.

I have a lot of animals and though i'd love more, i also know I don't want to be place myself in a situation where i have to give one or more up. I got the animal, i agree to take care of it and house it, so....
Why would you get another animal if you've already gotten rid of one as it is?
Is it just because you *want* something? That's not very fair to the critter. Just saying.

I agree. I tried a bunch of things to keep the humidity up for my baby BRB until I got it right. He doesn't deserve to be given up on.

[shaunyboy]

I want something that will be super tame that i can drag out to petstores and work or just sit with me and watch tv or play video games. But i also want it to be a midsized snake kinda like my bp was.


imo carpet pythons are a very hardy species and will be able to take what you have planned for your snake

also if your having humidity issues,carpets have no specific humidity requirements

all mine do just fine at uk room humidity 30% to 65%

coastal can get up to an average length of 2.5 metres,however larger specimens have been recorded up to 4 metres

carpet pythons are easy to keep and very forgiving if mistakes are made,all in all a very hardy species,they also come in lots of different colours and patterns

cheers shaun

[Lankyrob]

I don't know how to say this where it won't be offensive, but i think if you're getting any animal, and then having to give it up for any reason...maybe you shouldn't get any more.
If you think you do truly want another snake though, at least go to the pound or a rescue and see if there's one there you can adopt, rather than buying one from a breeder or store and then possibly having to rehome that one as well in the future.

I have a lot of animals and though i'd love more, i also know I don't want to be place myself in a situation where i have to give one or more up. I got the animal, i agree to take care of it and house it, so....
Why would you get another animal if you've already gotten rid of one as it is?
Is it just because you *want* something? That's not very fair to the critter. Just saying.


totally agree with this, a snake is a commitment for 20+ years and if you arent prepared to keep the snake in ideal conditions for that length of time then go to a zoo and view them instead.

No animal should be taken on without the intention to keep it for the fullness of its life.

[red ink]

imo carpet pythons are a very hardy species and will be able to take what you have planned for your snake

also if your having humidity issues,carpets have no specific humidity requirements

all mine do just fine at uk room humidity 30% to 65%

coastal can get up to an average length of 2.5 metres,however larger specimens have been recorded up to 4 metres

carpet pythons are easy to keep and very forgiving if mistakes are made,all in all a very hardy species,they also come in lots of different colours and patterns

cheers shaun

^^^^

Completely agree... with one provision though of any carpet species minus the JAG gene for those conditions of exposure and interaction.

[shaunyboy]

^^^^

Completely agree... with one provision though of any carpet species minus the JAG gene for those conditions of exposure and interaction.

^^^^^
thats a great point mate:)

one i will include the next time i suggest a carpet as a first snake;)

cheers shaun

[red ink]

^^^^^
thats a great point mate:)

one i will include the next time i suggest a carpet as a first snake;)

cheers shaun

Yeah I myself forget that too when recommending carpets... I believe they are a great snake species for interaction due to their nature and innate curiosity. Unfortunately with the proliferation of JAGs people forget that the gene can come with some inherent "problems" (a small portion) if they are "played" with a lot. It may cause the issue to arise and become more prevalent with over stimulation/interaction.

[shaunyboy]

Yeah I myself forget that too when recommending carpets... I believe they are a great snake species for interaction due to their nature and innate curiosity. Unfortunately with the proliferation of JAGs people forget that the gene can come with some inherent "problems" (a small portion) if they are "played" with a lot. It may cause the issue to arise and become more prevalent with over stimulation/interaction.


my copper coloured jag shows NO signs of neuro issues,unless.....

you lift her up out her tank,then you get the flighty full circle looping back on herself,her head upside down

its only jags ive seen do this,any other carpet does NOT get into those,wierd type of positions

imo you are 100% correct in your post mate

cheers shaun

[KORBIN5895]

This statement:

I recant my suggestion and feel you should wait. If you got bored with your royal I guarantee you will get bored with just about any other boid. Maybe you should try a garter snake. That's my next species.

Was made in response to this sentence:

BPs are cool and all but honestly im just bored with them right now

Yes I also realized I got rid of my rp because u didn't particularly like them and my wife was nervous around it. I love my boas now and have my Gabby which is definitely a lifer. So I just hope you can stick with the next one.

[herpchick]

I guess the term "bored" was the wrong one to post about how i feel about ball pythons as I had noted I had wanted a RTB from the get go but we were living in a smaller apartment at the time and our ferrets had taken up ALOT of the space i would have had for a larger snake also the landlord was a little skiddish of snakes and said it could only be smaller species.

I did really like my ball python and i could take him everywhere but i finally have the oportunity to get a larger snake that i plan to keep its whole life. I know Im not the only one that started out small and worked up to a larger snake... But enough on that.

It turns out Im getting a Columbian RTB as the woman in my area that claimed to have coastals really has jungles >:( But I am so stoked I am getting him on friday so i thank everyone for their help and telling me more from an owner level (i hate reading caresheets they all say the same) and thank everyone for their input :)

THANKS!

[hellosugaree]

It turns out Im getting a Columbian RTB as the woman in my area that claimed to have coastals really has jungles >:(

Jungles are awesome dude (or "mate" as some around here would say :laugh: ). They definitely don't deserve an angry face! What is it about a coastal that makes you consider one but not a jungle. Or put another way, why not a jungle?

[KORBIN5895]

Because boas are the bomb! And well coastals just aren't.

[shaunyboy]

Because boas are the bomb! And well coastals just aren't.

^^^^^
i never ever thought i'd say this,but.....

YOU DON'T HALF TALK SOME CRAP MATE.....!!!

some fugly boa,better than a carpet,no way my friend :laugh:

cheers shaun:D

[alessia55]

Hahahha Korbin and Shaun, you guys crack me up :laugh:

[exwizard]

because boas are the bomb! And well coastals just aren't.

.... I. Y. O. :)

[KORBIN5895]

You're right Shaun it's not the cp's fault they weren't born cool enough......

[shaunyboy]

You're right Shaun it's not the cp's fault they weren't born cool enough......

two words.....

HYPO COASTAL

cheers shaun;)

[exwizard]

Because boas are the bomb! And well coastals just aren't.

two words.....

HYPO COASTAL

cheers shaun;)

This is great :)

[Terranaut]

Having both I was going to suggest a carpet. I have jungles and a jag. I don't see how you could only like coastals but whatever. I do have to agree with some of the other post suggesting maybe no snake at all. Pets are not cars. You keep a pet the duration of it's life. They are not to be traded in after you get tired if them. You dont just get a new one and try again. Please commit 100% to whatever you get and don't be a "rehomer". Kijiji has enough snakes for sale as it is.

[shaunyboy]

This is great :)

no doubt it will get better ;)

its NOT often Kevin and i disagree,but its usually entertaining:laugh:

him and his crappy boa's,the guy needs help :wacky:;)

cheers shaun:laugh:

[hellosugaree]

I'll make an analogy a guy's selection of girlfriends: Boas are like the pornstar girlfriends--they're big and impressive, and cool to show off to your friends. Carpets are the like girlfriends you want to take home and show your family--they have a more subtle beauty and a personality ;) People who get those gigantic trucks with huge flame decals and obnoxious exhaust systems that get 2 miles a gallon and have 6 million ultra-bright lights which blind you as they tailgate you are usually the same kind of people that get boas :D The professional people that prefer to appreciate things on their own without shoving their presence down your throat in a desperate plea for attention--those are the carpet types. So it really comes down to what kind of person you are. Do you want something big to show off for a while until you get bored with its lacking personality, or do you want something awesome that will keep you in love forever?

...

Side note: Please don't get offended--I'm joking 100% on this. I know all kinds of people keep all kinds of snakes. And I don't want to start a war here that will cause all boa owners to start running people over with their monster trucks :P No, seriously--I'm kidding around. :)

[KORBIN5895]

two words.....

HYPO COASTAL

cheers shaun;)

I have heard of Pentecostal but never hypocostal. Let's not bring your wonky religious beliefs into this.

Ot

Carpets are very special. The grow a little slower. Well they are just a little slow in the head too..... Anyway I won't pick on this special breed.

[shaunyboy]

I'll make an analogy a guy's selection of girlfriends: Boas are like the pornstar girlfriends--they're big and impressive, and cool to show off to your friends. Carpets are the like girlfriends you want to take home and show your family--they have a more subtle beauty and a personality ;) People who get those gigantic trucks with huge flame decals and obnoxious exhaust systems that get 2 miles a gallon and have 6 million ultra-bright lights which blind you as they tailgate you are usually the same kind of people that get boas :D The professional people that prefer to appreciate things on their own without shoving their presence down your throat in a desperate plea for attention--those are the carpet types. So it really comes down to what kind of person you are. Do you want something big to show off for a while until you get bored with its lacking personality, or do you want something awesome that will keep you in love forever?

...

Side note: Please don't get offended--I'm joking 100% on this. I know all kinds of people keep all kinds of snakes. And I don't want to start a war here that will cause all boa owners to start running people over with their monster trucks :P No, seriously--I'm kidding around. :)

^^^^^
your my new best friend mate :D

cheers shaun

[hellosugaree]

^^^^^
your my new best friend mate :D

cheers shaun

Good--we have to stick together. We're outnumbered here like mormons at a whiskey and tattoo convention.

[shaunyboy]

I have heard of Pentecostal but never hypocostal. Let's not bring your wonky religious beliefs into this.

Ot

Carpets are very special. The grow a little slower. Well they are just a little slow in the head too..... Anyway I won't pick on this special breed.

^^^^^
your speaking in " tongues " just now my friend:laugh:;)

thought you were keeping religeon out of it :laugh::D

cheers shaun

p.s HYPOMELANISTIC = HYPO,look it up,i think even them crappy boa's come in that flavour as well.....

carpets suit it better though:p

[hellosugaree]

Carpets are very special. The grow a little slower. Well they are just a little slow in the head too..... Anyway I won't pick on this special breed.

The village idiot is always a good person to take advice from :)

[exwizard]

Having both I was going to suggest a carpet. I have jungles and a jag. I don't see how you could only like coastals but whatever. I do have to agree with some of the other post suggesting maybe no snake at all. Pets are not cars. You keep a pet the duration of it's life. They are not to be traded in after you get tired if them. You dont just get a new one and try again. Please commit 100% to whatever you get and don't be a "rehomer". Kijiji has enough snakes for sale as it is.

Hear hear! All 17 of my snakes are lifers

[KORBIN5895]

Listen op. Carpets are outcasts! Just look where they come from!

Also are really going to listen to that crazy Scot and the dude that doesn't even own a truck? And what's up with his hokey analogy? He is afraid to bring pretty women home to meet the folks??Now that is someone I would be afraid to take advice from.

[exwizard]

no doubt it will get better ;)

its NOT often Kevin and i disagree,but its usually entertaining:laugh:

him and his crappy boa's,the guy needs help :wacky:;)

cheers shaun:laugh:

I like them all

[hellosugaree]

Also are really going to listen to that crazy Scot and the dude that doesn't even own a truck?

I rest my case.

[KORBIN5895]

The village idiot is always a good person to take advice from :)

Oh yeah? Well we need to check your man card. Things are starting to smell a little fishy around here.

[hellosugaree]

It's all about compensation. If you lack something, get a big truck and a thick snake to compensate. :)

[KORBIN5895]

Well you know doesn't need to compensate when he owns a mini van. That takes a real man.

[shaunyboy]

now now kids.....

re-member we're only having a laugh :laugh:

cheers shaun:D

[shaunyboy]

Well you know doesn't need to compensate when he owns a mini van. That takes a real man.


real men wear kilts ;)

cheers shaun:D

[hellosugaree]

now now kids.....

re-member we're only having a laugh :laugh:

cheers shaun:D

Of course. I've had a smile on my face this whole time.

[shaunyboy]

Of course. I've had a smile on my face this whole time.

^^^^^
drat,my member pun should have had you laughing,must be my juivinile scots sense of humour;):D

i just realised the poor op's,going to be wishing they hadn't asked about which snake ? :o (sorry for high jacking your thread)

cheers shaun:)

[KORBIN5895]

It's all about compensation. If you lack something, get a big truck and a thick snake to compensate. :)

You're right. Maybe *she* does need to compensate!

real men wear kilts ;)

cheers shaun:D

The only men I know that wear skirts are the crazies........

now now kids.....

re-member we're only having a laugh :laugh:

cheers shaun:D

Lol! I must say you both did a good job getting a few laughs out of me!

[exwizard]

You guys make my work day much more enjoyable :)

[KORBIN5895]

Aren't you a trucker?

[Trollbie]

So if I wear a skirt, I'm a real man!

Score!

[exwizard]

Im on a local route. Check things out when I'm stopped.

[hellosugaree]

This thread has gone off topic in the best way possible. I wish we had a "best of ssnakess.com" section to immortalize awesome threads like this that everyone should be so lucky to set eyes on

[hellosugaree]

^^^^^
drat,my member pun should have had you laughing,must be my juivinile scots sense of humour;):D


Some humor just doesn't cross borders :D

[SnakeyJay]

Just got rid of the fit of giggles from reading this, totally crazy... :D
Still im not happy about all this lieing, all you people saying carpets are better than boa's... When it's just not true :D

[red ink]

I have heard of Pentecostal but never hypocostal. Let's not bring your wonky religious beliefs into this.

Ot

Carpets are very special. The grow a little slower. Well they are just a little slow in the head too..... Anyway I won't pick on this special breed.

Hypo coastal... I'll even top that with a Hypo bredli.

Once you get your hands on one of those the only boa ever to come into factor would be a feather boa... and you can keep wrapping that around you neck without any repercussions lol

[hellosugaree]

Just got rid of the fit of giggles from reading this, totally crazy... :D
Still im not happy about all this lieing, all you people saying carpets are better than boa's... When it's just not true :D

I think the only way to solve this like civil human beings is war. Team carpet vs team boa. Team boa has their trucks as a mobility and machinery advantage, not to mention flame and skull decals as a scary warning symbol. What team carpet lacks in heavy machinery, they make up for in cunning. Not to mention team carpet has way cooler snakes, so they have a definite morale advantage. However, team boa can make formidable barricades with all the broken couches and rusty car chassis they have scattered about their front lawns. And being mostly unemployed, they'll have plenty of time to hold down their forts... or shacks, really. Team carpet is also disadvantaged by having silly obligations like productive careers and nice houses and families to take care of.
:D:D:D

[shaunyboy]

Lol! I must say you both did a good job getting a few laughs out of me!

^^^^^
thought i would,as we're both on the SAME wave length humour wise mate:D

in your defense.....

North Brazillian boa's are very beautifull snakes.theres a guy in the uk who specialises in LOCALE SPECIFIC boa's and his north brazillians are pretty awsome

hope your having a good day my friend :)

cheers shaun:D

[shaunyboy]

So if I wear a skirt, I'm a real man!

Score!

^^^^^
if you wear a KILT,with no under crackers,then.....

a real man you be :)

that said you need to have dangley bits as well ????? lol

cheers shaun

[KORBIN5895]

You are also disadvantaged by the fact that you would have a hard time figuring out how to use a shovel for simple fortifications while we on the other hand can place our homemade claymores in under and hour and spend the remainder of our free time raiding your homes for food , medical supplies and other necessary items like thermostats, rhp and frozen rodents.:)

[hellosugaree]

You are also disadvantaged by the fact that you would have a hard time figuring out how to use a shovel for simple fortifications while we on the other hand can place our homemade claymores in under and hour and spend the remainder of our free time raiding your homes for food , medical supplies and other necessary items like thermostats, rhp and frozen rodents.:)

It's going to be hard to break into our houses when you blow your arms off placing your homemade claymores while smoking marlboros and lighting firecrackers with open cans of gasoline and explosives next to you.

[shaunyboy]

You are also disadvantaged by the fact that you would have a hard time figuring out how to use a shovel for simple fortifications while we on the other hand can place our homemade claymores in under and hour and spend the remainder of our free time raiding your homes for food , medical supplies and other necessary items like thermostats, rhp and frozen rodents.:)

^^^^^
you worry me at times Kevin :laugh:

the easiest way to confuse an american is.....

place 3 shovels in a corner.....

and ask him to take his pick:D

you get it ?????

cheers shaun:D

[hellosugaree]

You are also disadvantaged by the fact that you would have a hard time figuring out how to use a shovel for simple fortifications while we on the other hand can place our homemade claymores in under and hour and spend the remainder of our free time raiding your homes for food , medical supplies and other necessary items like thermostats, rhp and frozen rodents.:)

Neighbors again evacuated | Deseret News (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/917738/Neighbors-again-evacuated.html)

^^^ Definitely a boa owner :)

[KORBIN5895]

^^^^^
you worry me at times Kevin :laugh:

the easiest way to confuse an american is.....

place 3 shovels in a corner.....

and ask him to take his pick:D

you get it ?????

cheers shaun:D

Lol! I re-member that one from my childhood!

[shaunyboy]

Lol! I re-member that one from my childhood!

^^^^^
so you should,as it wasn't all that long ago,your still a young thing mate:D

cheers shaun

[shaunyboy]

Hypo coastal... I'll even top that with a Hypo bredli.


^^^^^
come on RED try and keep the thread on subject....:laugh:

its coastals the op's considering,not them bredl's:D

cheers shaun:)

P.S.hypo bredl are one of the best looking snakes out there;)

[KORBIN5895]

Neighbors again evacuated | Deseret News (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/917738/Neighbors-again-evacuated.html)

^^^ Definitely a boa owner :)

Dang! There goes our munitions facility!

[SnakeyJay]

It's funny that you carpet people think we're all jobless poor people... I work my *** off, save money, buy a cheap boa and still have cash left to hire a crack team of assassins to take you all out :D

[exwizard]

I think the only way to solve this like civil human beings is war. Team carpet vs team boa. Team boa has their trucks as a mobility and machinery advantage, not to mention flame and skull decals as a scary warning symbol. What team carpet lacks in heavy machinery, they make up for in cunning. Not to mention team carpet has way cooler snakes, so they have a definite morale advantage. However, team boa can make formidable barricades with all the broken couches and rusty car chassis they have scattered about their front lawns. And being mostly unemployed, they'll have plenty of time to hold down their forts... or shacks, really. Team carpet is also disadvantaged by having silly obligations like productive careers and nice houses and families to take care of.
:D:D:D

I LIKE THEM BOTH! So what does that make me? ;)

[KORBIN5895]

Swedish......

[exwizard]

Swedish......

You mean Swiss?

[KORBIN5895]

Honestly don't know.:) Just pick one of those pansy nations that are unable to defend themselves from a attack from a band of armed monkey.

[hellosugaree]

You mean Swiss?

Isn't that a cheese?

[Lankyrob]

The Swiss are generalised as the ultimate "neutral" country pretty sure thats what "the idiot" meant :)

[KORBIN5895]

Isn't that a cheese?

I thought he meant the little red knife used to clean nails and has a spoon and a mirror ( or some other such useless stuff) in it.

[exwizard]

Yeah eell I like both and I will defend that position until the end :)

[red ink]

Need I remind people that carpets are made in OZ... we're built tough down under. Pfft.. boas and their fortifications and claymores, one australian bloke with a swiss army knife (that ones's for Rob lol) will bring the boa nation down.

[SnakeyJay]

Need I remind people that carpets are made in OZ... we're built tough down under. Pfft.. boas and their fortifications and claymores, one australian bloke with a swiss army knife (that ones's for Rob lol) will bring the boa nation down.

Oh no, it's crocodile Dundee with a spoon :D love it!

[exwizard]

Carpets are prettier and more active and interesting to handle. Boas generally are calmer and more impressive in their size. Either way, its a win. Then when you add the unique Madagascar pattern that a Dum has... Thats even better. :)

[red ink]

Oh no, it's crocodile Dundee with a spoon :D love it!


I see you've played knoifey spouney Befour...

[KSTAR]

IMO I Think Any Snake You Get Will Make A Great Pet As Long As You Do
your Part Aswell It's What You make Of It....I am aware that people do have they're own preferences Aswell so do some re-search and which ever fits your liking the best You Shall Get

[exwizard]

I like snakes that are handleable. Thats my preference. If you click on my signature line, you will see that this is the case with all 17 of my snakes.