Update Pic on my Corn

[chpwaldy]

Here is lil cokie. I was told by the pet store is was a she. Not sure yet. They also said SHE was an Okeetee. Not sure about that either. ANY guess yet to what she/he is? All I know is she is a pretty snake and I love her to death... Hoping to get a baby snow boy in a few weeks.
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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/ChpwaLdy/Picture046.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/ChpwaLdy/Picture044.jpg

[Tinks]

be carefull on what surfaces you put her on, the desk looks like it could give her splinters, beautiful snake tho.

[chpwaldy]

Thanks, Yeah the desk is not real wood. It is that pressed cardboard crap. But anyhow that is why I had her on the mouse pad.

[ChokeOnSmoke]

Looks like it could be okeetee. Its yellow will come in as it ages. As for the sex it would have to be popped or probed.
I wouldn't worry about the surface its on either it not like everything is sanded smooth in the wild.

[Ash19]

I was going to say it looks like a normal to me but neonates do look a lot different when they get older. As for sexing her. You can also do that by when she sheds, count the scales. You take the tail scales and subtract them from the belly scales. if there are 154 or less, it's a male. 155 or more is female. The further away you are from that number, the more you can be sure of the sex.

[snakelover111]

yea definately looks like an okeete when it sheds if it gets bright red its rpoblaby for sure a okeete

[chpwaldy]

Correct me if I am wronge but I heard 130 or Less is female 140 or more a Male.



" If the total of the two rows is 130 or less then it’s probably a girl, 140 or more its a boy. "

[Ash19]

Well I got it from my other forum, and that person was quoting it from a care shet or book or something....

[SCherper]

yea thats an okatee for sure

[Thrush]

Correct me if I am wronge but I heard 130 or Less is female 140 or more a Male.



" If the total of the two rows is 130 or less then it’s probably a girl, 140 or more its a boy. "

So it seems that Ash19 is counting body scales minus the tail scales to get a ratio, while Chpwaldy is saying that the two rows of tail scales should be counted and that will tell you a corn snake's sex... Can we get a third or fourth opinion? I'm interested in knowing whether my corn is a girl or not, but I can't probe her.

Thanks,
Colleen

[vanderkm]

Counting scales is not a reliable method of determining gender in corns. It can give you some idea, but there is so much overlap that it cannot be considered accurate. A snake the size of yours could easily be popped - you might want to consider posting a request for someone to probe or pop it for you - likely to be a breeder or club member in your area who is willing to help you out - often at no cost

mary v.

[Thrush]

My snake is actually a year and a half. I'm sure 'she' couldn't be popped at this age. Does anyone know people in Ottawa who are in the Reptile and Amphibian association? Their website hasn't been updated in years, and i was trying to find fellow Ottawans who might be able to probe my silly snake :)

Colleen

[vanderkm]

Sorry my mistake - I wasn't paying attention and thought yours was the one in the pic at the top of this post - from the pic I figured less than about 4-5 months old.

It might be worth doing a new post with title requesting help with probing in your area. At 1.5 years probing is very reliable. Since this post is quite old and the title is not specific, you might not get people reading it who could help you out.

You should also be able to get a good impression from the tail shape at this age. When viewed from the bottom, the male's tail will not taper for about an inch past the vent, where that of a female will taper immediately after the vent. Same impression when viewed from the side - the male's tail stays thick for at least an inch after the vent, the female's will taper quickly. It is easier to assess once they are past a couple years of age, but you can get as good an idea from overall tail shape as from counting scales. Probing is definitely the way to go though.

Good luck finding someone to help you out,

mary v.