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tHeGiNo
04-28-05, 03:49 PM
http://www.strictlyexoticreptiles.com/hilde.jpg

See it? Of course you don't, its all gone! Thanks again for the wonderful recipe, the cresteds love it! They darn near licked the enamel of the bowl! Never have they eaten this much before :P.

damzookeeper
04-28-05, 03:53 PM
LMAO, that was funny, I was looking for something at first. lol. I think I need that recepie Hilde. :)

mmichele
04-28-05, 05:48 PM
Plllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees sssssssssssssssssseeeeeeee give me that recipie

peterm15
04-28-05, 05:51 PM
rofl.. now that gave me a good chuckel

CDN-Cresties
04-28-05, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by mmichele
Plllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees sssssssssssssssssseeeeeeee give me that recipie

It was posted in the thread called "what all does yours eat" I just copied the following from one of Hilde's posts.

My typical recipe makes roughly 6 ice cube trays, but it can vary depending on the type of tray
you're using. Since I have at least 20 fruit-eating adult Rhacs at any time and who knows how many
babies, it's worth making a big batch at once. You can use less of everything if you don't have a
lot of Rhacs (yet, but you will soon ) and the mix freezes well so don't worry about making too
much. Since the ingredients are also human food grade, you can eat some of it yourself if you don't
add the CGD, it's great slightly frozen, reminds me of a milkshake.

I've used this recipe since I first got Rhacs back in '96. I start with 1 large can (approx. 800 g./
28 oz.) of unsweetened mango pulp (plain mango will do since it all goes into the blender later), 1
small to medium very ripe banana, 1 or 2 soft pears, 3-4 figs, and one or two other fruits
in season. They love peach, mango, pear, banana, dates, figs, grapes and berries - especially
strawberries. Just about any fruit will do, but try not to use citrus fruit. All the fruit is
blended until smooth and then poured into a mixing bowl. I then add low fat or fat-free yogurt,
strawberry, mixed berries or peach. They have no problems digesting the lactose since the bacteria
in the yogurt culture convert it to a safe form for them. A one serving size container of yogurt is
added to the fruit mix and stirred until blended. Pour it all into ice cube trays and freeze.

Each batch is a bit different since I use whatever fruit is in season, so they get different
flavours throughout the year. I try to have 2 different batches going at a time and alternate with
each feeding. To give them a change every once in a while, I add something to the thawed cubes
before feeding. I'll sprinkle some pollen over the top, mix in a different blended fruit from the
other batch in the freezer, maybe add a bit of different yogurt flavour or some finely chopped figs.


Some batches also get a half a jar of CGD added while still in the blender, but that also means
adding a bit of water to keep it at a lickable consistency. Don't add too much CGD or it will be too
thick, and they might not bother eating it if they have to bite and chew it. This is one of my
least favourite variations, mostly because not all of my Rhacs will eat the CGD. I think I've pretty
well eliminated this version in favour of just feeding plain CGD to those who will touch it.

Feedings alternate with crickets/bugs of some kind 2 or sometimes 3 times a week, this fruit mix 2-3
times a week, some don't even bother with bugs much once they get to liking the fruit mix. Mix the
supplement (like Miner-all ) in when feeding if you can, that way you have more control over who
gets how much and when. It can be added before freezing, I just prefer to add it before serving.
Breeding females need more than lone males, babies need more than lone males etc. That's why I add
the Miner-all and vitamins when I feed the mix. Also, not every fruit/yogurt feeding gets
supplements. I skip one here and there, just feed it plain.

For cresties (and other Rhacs) who eat mostly the yogurt/fruit mix and barely touch crickets, I
don't dust the crickets and other bugs. They get their supplements in the fruit. Since they almost
always eat every drop of fruit, I know how much they've gotten. For those who eat bugs as easily as
fruit, I alternate, sometimes I go long stretches of supplements in fruit only, no dusted bugs.
Other times I'll do the dusted bugs, nothing in the fruit. All told, they do get supplements, but
not in and on every food item. The batches of fruit with CGD never had supplements added at all, I
just dusted the bugs when I used them. However, I don't do the mix with CGD anymore, or at least
don't have any intentions to use it since most of my adults didn't like it as much, and the
acceptance rate with all Rhacs in general wasn't as good.

DragnDrop
04-28-05, 06:14 PM
So, this one's for me, but the bowl is empty?
I guess a 'Thanks for nothing' is in order, huh? ;)

I'm glad they liked it.

I even let me female leopards and fatties have a few licks of it during breeding season - they seem to like it too.

tHeGiNo
04-28-05, 06:16 PM
LOL! You're far too clever :D.

Asian Jon
04-28-05, 09:21 PM
You're a trickster. I know the cresties didn't gobble that up, you did :P

Hilde's Recipe is so good, I find myself eating some on feeding night.
Edit: Without the CGD of course lol.

newticus
04-29-05, 09:54 AM
Do you use fresh or dried figs?

labomb2
04-29-05, 01:18 PM
no canned mango in my store. how many fresh ones?

DragnDrop
04-29-05, 02:04 PM
The figs can be either since it all goe through the blender. If they're dried and hard, just put them in warm water for a few minutes to soften up, or in the microwave with a bit of water for about 30 seconds, works faster.
I don't know how many fresh mangos, I don't think I ever used them so I have no idea how much you can get from one. I get the mango from the East Indian Food store just a few blocks from here.

labomb2
05-04-05, 06:21 AM
OK, I have let my fresh fruits soften, I have blended well. I am getting ready to add my non fat peach yogurt...and yikes! this yogurt has Aspartame, which is an artificial sweetener I believe phenylalanine. and the lowfat fruit yogurts have sugar and corn syrup. so...would it not be advised to use plain yogurt?

babysweet
05-04-05, 07:31 AM
Ewwwww.... aspartame is a four-letter word in our house.

Not only would I stongly dicourage you feeding it to your geckos... I would STRONGLY discourage you feeding it to any living thing, including yourself!!

Aspartame has been linked to all KINDS of nasties... just Google it for an idea.

The world these days has gone so fat/sugar/carb free, it has become acceptable to replace them with chemicals and other assorted JUNK.

Kim

DragnDrop
05-04-05, 07:48 AM
The aspartame is scary, but none of the ones I use have it, never even knew there was yogurt with it, though I should have guessed. The sugar you see could be listed because there is sugar in it - naturally occurring milk sugar (lactose), fruit sugar (fructose) or less acceptable added sugar (sucrose and glucose) that we automatically think of. If you get the ones saying there's no sugar added, then any analysis showing sugar will be the naturally occuring ones, the ones that are 'okay'. The corn syrup would fall under the 'added sugar' lable. I don't know what brands are available in your area, but there has to be some yogurt that hasn't been manipulated to the max.

newticus
05-05-05, 01:39 AM
just to let you know there is natually occuring aspartame in milk and tomatos and a bunch of other things.

babysweet
05-05-05, 07:31 AM
Well, THAT's a new one.

Actually, aspartame was an accidental discovery by scientists trying to formulate an ulcer medication.

It consists of phenylalanine, aspartic acid and methanol.

Interestingly enough, aspartame manufacturers are currently under severe pressure to remove the additive from soda products, as aspartame and soda make formaldehyde when stored at temperatures above 85 degrees.

I'm curious as to who your source is that it is naturally occuring.

Also... there are so many chemicals, hormones and proteins in milk that have negative effects on... well... anything that's not a COW, that aspartame would be the LEAST of your worries.

But picking on innocent tomato juice? Shameful. ;)

Kim

newticus
05-15-05, 11:22 PM
I actually read it a long time ago. I was doing research on it cause all my friends pester me about drinking diet coke (but if i didn't i'd be a very large person, cause of all the sugar and the amount of soda i seem to drink)
I know the stuff we consume was man made but i read that it's chemical combination as aspertame occurs in everyday foods like milk and tomatos. There were other foods mentioned but i can't remember them any more.

newticus
05-15-05, 11:23 PM
although i could be very wrong. I did read something to that effect, but it might have been bogus.

tHeGiNo
05-16-05, 06:22 AM
Doing a quick search, I found this - maybe this is what you saw?

When we eat or drink products with aspartame, our digestive system breaks it down into its component parts, which are the same as those found in common foods such as milk, eggs, meat, fish, cheese, tomatoes and bananas. Because aspartame brings nothing new to our diet, it is not surprising that it has come through all its safety tests with flying colours.

newticus
05-16-05, 10:14 PM
it is very possible, that that is what i read.
but it was so long ago, i don't know for sure