what are signs that a snake was burned or electircuted by a heating pad

[CuttsCustoms]

what are signs that a snake was burned or electircuted by a heating pad i need pics as my friends snake was killed so he thinks by my heating pad.

[mcfreshdeli]

I dont know any signs but I read your classified ad. It sounds like you are trying to replace it without him knowing, and that Is soooo f'd up. I hope I read it wrong

[CuttsCustoms]

you did read wrong the guy knows, he called me up and gave me peice of his ear. now im going over to remove the snake tonight. i just didn't want it to destroy are frienship. not to mention i work with him.

[JAdkins2451]

Did he put the heat pad inside the enclosure? If so then it shouldnt be your fault.

Jamie

[mcfreshdeli]

thats a relief i guess. Sorry about that. Look for wery small burn marks or something like that if it was electricuted.

[CuttsCustoms]

no i did. its stuck to a ceramic tile with a homemade dimmer on it.

[JAdkins2451]

Ah that could have been the problem then, if the dimmer failed that heat could have caused its death. My understanding is that a snakes has a wierd nevous system and that they cant feel if its to hot. In return they will stay and the hot spot even if its to hot which will kill the.
Not 100 % sure mybe someone will clarify it.

Jamie

[CuttsCustoms]

great , the reason i gave him the pad was because all he had was a lamp running24/7. hes a bit of tool and i was helping him out. do you think it would smel terrible?

[CuttsCustoms]

oh and don't exoterras run at 100 with no controls? would 100? kill a boa overnight? im a complete mess over this, seeing as how it will end my job.

[mcfreshdeli]

I think you need an autopsy I just dont see that killng it for some reason. How long was it in there unattended

[CuttsCustoms]

less then 24 hours, installed pad at 6:00pm last night was told snake died this morning. anybody know any herp vates in the gta who could perform one. unless the signs are there that he burned etc.

[HeatherRose]

I would ask to see the dead snake, and get a necropsy. (I don't know any t.o vets, sorry)

I find it very hard to believe that it died over night from a heatpad. You had it on a dimmer and did everything you were supposed to...

Get a necropsy, paying for a snake you didn't kill isn't cool :(

[tHeGiNo]

First of all, if it is an exoterra heat pad, I highly doubt that it will be able to kill a ball python. Was the heat pad directly INSIDE the enclosure?

[mcfreshdeli]

NO NO NO THere is no way in hell that is what killed the boa. It had to have been something else. Probably wasn't your fault. get it to a vet

[JAdkins2451]

Originally posted by CuttsCustoms
oh and don't exoterras run at 100 with no controls? would 100? kill a boa overnight? im a complete mess over this, seeing as how it will end my job.

If it only goes to a 100, then there might be a diffrent problem. If it was me I would want to see the snake and take it to the vet and like everyone else said get necropsy just to make.

[Jeff_Favelle]

100F in ONE spot of the cage WILL NOT kill your boa. I've temp-gunned gravid female boas at 103F before. My LARGE female routinely bask at 100-102F RIGHT NOW.

Unless that heat pad got to 120-130F, I seriously doubt that you caused the death. If the guy was running a heat lamp 24/7 on a nocturnal boa, then he's an idiot. You owe him nothing. Show him this thread. End of your part of the bargain.

[tHeGiNo]

EXACTLY what I was thinking Jeff, unless there was some kind of major flaw in the heat pad, there is no way an exoterra heating unit could kill the snake.

[maritimExotics]

I bet he added the heat pad AND left the lamp on the whole time..... and that would do the trick..............either way i wouldn't want to be in the situation, and whenever you change heating methods you should check on it from time to time... don't get caught up over it man...

[Jeff_Favelle]

and whenever you change heating methods you should check on it from time to time... don't get caught up over it man...


I agree man! But BETTER YET! Don't friggin' calibrate the temps while the snake is in the damn cage, LOL! Cages should be set up and calibrate and DONE WELL BEFORE a snake sets "foot" inside. This is all common sense though.

[CuttsCustoms]

all i have to say was this whole situation was an overeaction on his part and the outcome came out in my favour, buts the last time i help anybody. This has been refusing most my advice even before he got the snake. he bought it for his friggen 11 year old!! I offered him one of my corns, a much more suitable snake if he was actually serious. I told him the dangers of what even a 5-7 boa could do to him or his son. I should have stopped right there. but instead i kept trying to help seeing as how i thought he was my friend. i helped him setup up his cage to the best of my abilities . he refused to buy a heating pad, because the petsore were he bought the snake told him a 120 watt basking light on all the time was sufficient. i presauded him to change the bulb after reading a temp 0f 115f on the cage bottom 20" from the bulb. I told him the light could not be on all day as boas are nocturnal and it would screw him up. so i left him alone for awhile , you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. i eventually came across a bunch of heating pads. made the same system i currently have on three of my tanks[ no problems as of yet] took it over gave it to him on good faith, not asking for money at the time just thinking of the snake.

[CuttsCustoms]

to finish off the story . my heat pad was fine his snake had such severe mites it had sumberged itsself in its water bowl so long it was frozen and i will not be giving help or advice to others again.

i hope this sounds rationale i am under the influenece of the stomach flu so im not myself. all i have to say is thankyou guys and im now in favor of some sort of registration.

[CuttsCustoms]

oh and the reason we were calibrating temps in the cage is how else do you do it with one cage, besides i already run these pads knowing there limitations. i have to say he is the tool of the day.