breeding Q.

[Robadagatti]

If Im using butter and any emoryi snake is it possible to get creamsicle babies? and using candycane and butter i could get striped amelanistic cornsnakes, am I right?

[vanderkm]

The emoryi to any amel corn (butter included) will produce normal (rootbeers) het for amel (and caramel from the butter) in the first generation. Breeding those together will give 1/4 creamsicles in the next generation, with a 1/16 chance of a buttercream (homozygous for both amel and caramel. Breeding the first generation back to the butter parent will increase your chances of creamsicles. To complicate things there is an amel gene in emoryi, but it is not allelic with the amel in corns and it remains quite rare - unlikely you would end up with that in the mix.

Using candycane (selectively bred for increased white background, but genetically just an amel) and butter you will get amels that are het for caramel, unless there is a striped gene in both lines. Stiped is a simple recessive so needs to come from both parents.

mary v.

[Robadagatti]

what comes out if im using butter and caramel motley?
and what if ill try Butter x Bloodred?

Butter x Amelanistic = all amelanistics???

thanks.

[Asian Jon]

If it's butter x caramel motley, the babies will be all caramel het amel, motley.

Buttercreams!? Homo for amel and caramel? That sounds awesome, any pics Mary? I couldnt find any on google :(

[vanderkm]

Jon took care of answering the butter by caramel motley (nice cross - lots of great potential there - and I envy you if you havea caramel motley - great color combination!!).

Butter by bloodred will give all normals het for caramel, amel and bloodred - the bloodred may have some influence to enhance the normal coloration and reduce the normal pattern in the het state.

Butter by amel will give all amel that are het for caramel.

Jon - buttercream is one designation for creamsicle line (emoryi blood) that are homozygous for caramel in addition to amel. I haven't seen any pics of any but expect to produce some within a couple years - will be breeding my creamsicle het butter male to a butter corn female. I expect that, in addition to the increased yellow from the caramel, there will be an overall reduction in the darkness of the saddle color - as the creamsicles have more of an orange tone than the red of normal amels. I have seen some of South Mountain yellow creamsicles and wonder if they have some butter influence, but don't know that they do. Will know for sure in a few years. The snowcreams I have seen photos of look just like snow corns, so it is possible the buttercreams will be impossible to distinguish from butter corns - but those of us working with creamsicles do want to make sure that people know what they are buying if they are not pure corn.

mary v.