Hemostats

[Christina]

I was curious to know if all of you felt there is a market for hemostats. I need to get as many answers as I can by Nov 4th.
Yeah leave it to me to do things at the last minute lol :)
Thankyou Christina
Pics of the Hemostats I am pondering!

[Matt_K]

ummmm.. I hate to break it to you, but today's the 5th.. hehehe. i think you hit the wrong key..

[Christina]

OH crap I mean the 7th k!!! Yeah I hit the wrong key lets leave it to that.
Oh yeah inked you didnt answer my question you just came to pick on me lol :P

[snakedude_03]

well.. i dunno.. i have some hemostats that my dad friend gave to us.. i find it pretty good.. feeding them snakes... if they strike.. they wont be able to bite my hand.. i hope..i dont really know the market tho.. sorry. :P

[Jeff_Favelle]

Hemostats are GREAT! Why, do you have any for sale??

[Christina]

Yes we are looking into purchasing some to sell at the 17th expo but we want to know if it is worth to ship them up.
So the more the response the better the idea we have on what decision to make :) :) :)

[casacrow]

They are great. The bigger the better.

[Tim_Cranwill]

Sorry, dumb question, are they scissors or tongs?

[Zhakrin]

It would kind of depend on the price. Medical quality hemostats can be pricey and most people can simply chuck the feeder in the bin.

The hemostat are not absolutely needed my herpers, they are more a luxury item (the luxury of not losing your fingers, LOL)

I say it completely depends on the price, if its cheap people will buy. but I am not sure you will make a great amount of profit.

my 2 cents.

Cya at the show.

[Big Mike]

Ya, if they are cheep then they should sell. I just got some extra long needle nose plyers from Wal-mart for $5.

Point is...they are usefull but not required. If they are ecconomical then OK but if not..well.....

[Christina]

I can completely understand the necessity of affordability!
As fellow herpers and beginning in our own business that is one aspect that we are quite aware of.
We are thinking on pricing the 18" around 35.00 and the 24" around 45.00
Yes they are good quality wouldnt have it any other way it is our business rep at stake.
CRANWILL: They are scissor like with a tweezer type end on it that is textured to grip.
The benefit of using hemostats is NOT getting BIT!

[Jeff_Favelle]

Try feeding my 6 foot Jungle or 7 foot BRB without hemostats and then tell me they are luxury items.

[Syst3m]

I can get 18" hemos by my house for 10 buxs a peice thats USD and the 24" for 12usd a peice. They are not medical quality buy they all work great for my snakes.

[reverendsterlin]

I use 1 pair of stats with a home made foam tip to use with the invertibrates, tease feeding is done with a pair of long field collector tongs, mostly they don't need me to hold it for them lol

[Christina]

Yes System you probably can but we have to consider rate exchange, shipping, duty fees and taxes. This effects the Canadian market.
Christina

[Jeff_Favelle]

Do you know of any good places to get hemostats? I need a pair as do two of my friends. If you know of any good places (I'm a canuck too!!), let me know!

Thanks!! :D

[Quervo]

Syst3m : I can get 18" hemos by my house for 10 buxs a peice
Christina Yes System you probably can but we have to consider rate exchange, shipping, duty fees and taxes. This effects the Canadian market.

I think the point here is .. medical quality is a bit of overkill for our needs .. especially at that price. If you could find some good quality feeding tongs, and get them up here for $10 to $20 you'd be laughing, but medical quality haemostats for $40 or so is going to take $20 away from the snake fund. :D

[Jeff_Favelle]

Quervo. What is we got a bunch of people together and ordered a wackload? That would help a bit with shipping and maybe we could get some sort of discount? But do we know enough people who would want a pair?

[Christina]

Yes Jeff I do have somewhere to get them right now at very optimal pricing! That is why I am trying to find out the market on them I am approaching this on a business end of matters.
Should we or shouldnt we include this product in our list of supplies?
Yes I can get them not a prob! If there is market! I want to bring them to the 17th show if there is but they will be as priced in one of my other replies.
As for getting hemos up here for 10 or 20 Canadian medical quality or not it is not possible we are on the search and this is the best we can get.
Do you realise that right no 18 inch goes for $50 we are cutting the retail price because we are able to get such a good deal but we have to have the order in by Friday. As well 24" go for 65-70.
So as you can see comparing the prices we are offering a really good deal.
I like to know peoples preference for feeding there reptiles this helps us to hunt and find good prices for every one to help raising our herps more affordable and enjoyable!
Christina
PS If you dont want to say on here but you are interested please pm me or email me ty :)

[Jeff_Favelle]

Christina, in my mind, and a lot of other herper's, hemostats is the ONLY way to feed snakes larger then 3 feet! I honestly think you should be able to sell 20 pairs at a reptile show, but people can be funny sometimes. I would only ever use them and I know a lot of people who do, but trying to convince cheapo Canadians to buy $50 "tongs" may be tough. I wish you luck. Advertise like heck if you do get them in. I hope you can sell everything!! :D

[Christina]

Thanks Jeff
You are a great guy!
Christina

[Jeff_Favelle]

Hey, thanks!!

Let me know how the show goes. If I were, I'd advertise like heck here and other places that you're bringing the hemostats in. Create interest (even though it should ALREADY be there if people knew what was good for them, ha ha!!). Make it seem like people are totally missing out by not having this wonderful herp tool (which they are), and then they should sell. I don't see why not. Best of luck!! :D

[Lisa]

We use $5 tongs. don't know if hemostats would be better or not.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Hemostats are great because they have a small "point of attack". Meaning that where they grab the rodent (or whatever) not much of the tool itself is showing. Thus, the snake cannot damage its mouth while striking. This is important with snakes with a STRONG feeding response! ie) Boas and Pythons!!!

Hemostats rule the world.


Ha ha :D

[Lisa]

we usually hold the rodent by the tail so it swings, gives a little distance and alot more movement.

[Syst3m]

So at my current exchange rate observed by me while traveling from detroit to my home (on the billboard for casino windsor)

My 18 inch hemos are 15.60cad and my 24 are 18.72, after the cost of driving to get them and home again I probably will spend no more then 1 usd on gas. Like quervo said, medical grade hemos are overkill. I'm sure with shipping and taxes and the exchange you could find a less expensive supplier for hemos and sell them at a much more favorable price. Since the prices that I have are definatly not a bulk price I figure that the prices for someone with a business liscense would be noticably lower.

I know that its not an option for you right now but on friday I will try to enquire where they get their hemo's from and pass that info on to you.

[P.curtus]

I would say hemos would sell, but that's a very hi price.

[Christina]

Well to all we have decided not to order them.
It will work itself out eventually I have decided that the market is small and not worth it for us right now.
Maybe eventually people will shop around and realise that the prices I quoted are really good! No hard feelings at all we are just starting out and everything is a learning experience!
Systm: if you can get that info great but we still have to take in consideration shipping, duty fees and taxes as well. It is at least a 4hr drive for us to just get to the border and I dont know the gas market in the US but it sucks here!
THANKYOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED AND HELPFULL :)
Christina

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ha ha Syst3m!!! A BUCK for gas? What are you driving? A Go-cart!!?? LOL!! Plus, its not like you can just drive to the border and fling them out the window!! Even if the border is 5 minutes from your house, maybe the point of sale for these tools is 4 hours away from the border?

Ha ha!

Having said that, are those 24 inch Hemos pretty good? You wanna send me a photo of a pair (if you have one handy. don't go to any great lengths). Thanks bud!

Too bad Christina. At least you're not scrambling around now trying to get it all set up. Now you can take your time, avdertise, get some pre-sales, etc etc, and then order them! Good Luck.

[Quervo]

Hey Christina .. sorry, I wasn't trying to rain on your parade, But you have to look at what you are competing with. I can get hemostats off Ebay for as low as US$10.00 .. I can get them to my door for as little as cad$22.00 (I say as little 'cause it depends on what the auction goes for). Now you would probably get the "I'm here, they're here .. we might as well buy some" crowd, but if people have time to think about it, they'll usually save the 10 bucks and praise themselves for their smart shopping. :cool:

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ahhh yes Quervo, but that's where a killer advertising board comes in. You have to make people feel that they NEED this pair of hemostats for the snake they JUST bought. Maybe people don't have another $100 for a different snake, but they could buy something for $40 to enhance their experience with the 1st snake. Don't underestimate advertising. Not many people will go to an expo for tools/extras, but MANY people end up buying them while they are there, whether they need them or not. And if they see a great display, showing that people "in the know" use hemostats (which they do) then they will want to as well!!

Good luck!! I wish I was in Ontario for all these shows!

[C.Marshell]

Cristina..i could use a couple new sets of hemostats.18"and the 24",if you can email me and i will pre-pay the order,then you can drop them off at either my table or Boa manias table at the show.
Presently i do not know if i am attending the show for sure, But Mike will be there and you can just give them to him and he will get them to me.

They are a great tool..well worth the coin!

[Syst3m]

I never got the time to ask them for their supplier on friday but I must make a trip to them on sunday for a few more sets of them myself. IF they tell me who they get them from I will let you know. Selling them is a GREAT idea and if you can get them and sell them cheaper thats even better.

[Christina]

Thanks Systm
I am also looking farther into it through the Canadian market but every little bit helps!
Christina