cycling ?

[malaysianbloods]

Hi I was wondering when do you start to leave the temps the same for the whole day again while cycling the balls, and how do you go about doing it? Do you just start turning the heating pad off less and less every night untill it's on all day again?

Thanks for any responses in advance.

[mykee]

On October 1, I set my Helix's to be 94 for the day (12 hours) and 72 for the night (12 hours). On April 1, I set my Helix's to be 94 for 24 hours until I cool again in October. No need to gradually increase the hours of warm, just let them have it. Good luck.

[malaysianbloods]

Also how long do you wait (months/days) after starting to lower night temps before you indroduce the male to the female.
Thanks once again for any replys in advance.

[mykee]

I introduce in the middle of October. Many will wait an entire month before introducing, but I prefer to get a jump on it.

[Bristen]

Originally posted by mykee
I introduce in the middle of October. Many will wait an entire month before introducing, but I prefer to get a jump on it.

I introduced in November and got action then.. however, the male does not appear very interested anymore... I'm not sure, but I think I read somewheres that copulation before december seldom results in viable eggs? Is that true??

One said to me that once a male "did" a female good, he can loose interest in her (different pheremones<sp?> or something?).. anyways, I was recommended to keep introducing the male anyways, but it's likely she's ready to go if the male isn't interested in her anymore...

what I feared is that he got what wanted early in the season, sat back and relaxed when it's most critical that he "does his thing" (December).. he's got other ladies to attend to, so I was hoping he'd get my females good before he left (one week left before he leaves for other ladies)...

Let me know what you think...

thanks,
Bristen.

[malaysianbloods]

Thanks Mykee and Bristen for your replys.
Ok, so after the male is not interested in the female any more that is when you stop introducing them to each other.

[Bristen]

Originally posted by malaysianbloods
Thanks Mykee and Bristen for your replys.
Ok, so after the male is not interested in the female any more that is when you stop introducing them to each other.

No!! that's not what I said!! I was asking Mykee's opinion.. I would not stop introducing just in case!!

I would think you should keep changing the male from one female to the other making sure to give him breaks in there here 'n' there.. this is my first year, so you better wait until other people posts such as Mykee who's got experience breeding ball pythons...

Good luck!
Bristen.

[mykee]

I begin introducing the males to the females in mid-October. Whether or not they mate, I continue to pair them up until mid-March and then turn their heat back up on April 1. Right now, I have 3 males that are breeding for me, they have a rotation of anywhere from 3-5 females; I'll leave a male in with a girl for two days, at which point I will take my male out and put him in with the next girl. This continues non-stop until mid-March, with time-out for feeding, sheddings etc. One breeding is not going to make me happy, and I wouldn't rest on that for a success. I pair them up for the 5 months and let them go at it. I have already witnessed by this time 6 females that have been bred 5 or more times. You're only increasing your chances the more breeding attempts that are made.

[Bristen]

ok, thanks for the reply Michael :) I'm hoping there's a lot going on that I'm not seeing...

[malaysianbloods]

When or how long should it take for the female ball to ovulate after a good lock-up or breeding.
Thanks.

[mykee]

Sid, I would really recommend you picking up the Ball Python Breeding Manual video from www.ballpython.com. It is by FAR, the most comprehensive ball python breeding information out there, bar none and will answer every one of your BP breeding questions, and even answer questions that you haven't asked yet. To answer your question, there is no definitive answer. They ovulate when they ovulate, who knows which breeding was the "one" or "a good lock-up" is the one that took? The first one? The most recent one? The longest one? The one where they looked like they had the most fun? Personally, some of my most memorable "breedings" were the quickest ones...

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

LMAO Mykee!

Thanks for all the info everyone! We have the video, I've only watched it once myself though, but i've read the ball python manual book too. Sid and I will have to watch it with a pen and paper in hand lol.

C.

[biber]

TEMP
I 24/26 21/23
II 26/29 24/26
III 26/29 24/26
IV 26/29 24/26
V 26/29 24/26
VI 26/29 24/26
VII 26/29 24/26
VIII 26/29 24/26
IX 26/29 24/26
X 24/26 21/23
XI 24/26 21/23
XII 24/26 21/23
C

I 70/80
II 70/80
III 70/80
IV 70/80
V 70/80
VI 70/80
VII 70/80
VIII 70/80
IX 70/80
X 90
XI 90
XII 70/80 %



Light

Styczeń 9
Luty 10
Marzec 11
Kwiecień 12
Maj 13
Czerwiec 14
Lipiec 14
Sierpień 13
Wrzesień 12
Listopad 11
Październik 10
Grudzień 9

This is my cycling? It is good?

[mykee]

Biber, You need to be a little bit more specific with your last post, I don't understand ANY of it....sorry

[nita]

Originally posted by biber
TEMP
I 24/26 21/23
II 26/29 24/26
III 26/29 24/26
IV 26/29 24/26
V 26/29 24/26
VI 26/29 24/26
VII 26/29 24/26
VIII 26/29 24/26
IX 26/29 24/26
X 24/26 21/23
XI 24/26 21/23
XII 24/26 21/23


The above is his temps highs and lows from January (I) to December (XII)

Below is Humidity January to December
Originally posted by biber

I 70/80
II 70/80
III 70/80
IV 70/80
V 70/80
VI 70/80
VII 70/80
VIII 70/80
IX 70/80
X 90
XI 90
XII 70/80 %


And Light in hours. That is how I understood it anyway.
Originally posted by biber

Light

Styczeń 9
Luty 10
Marzec 11
Kwiecień 12
Maj 13
Czerwiec 14
Lipiec 14
Sierpień 13
Wrzesień 12
Listopad 11
Październik 10
Grudzień 9


Other than your humidity seems a bit high sometimes. If you aren't running into resp infections it looks fine to me but I'm no expert by far :) . I'm guessing the higher humidity is to simulate the rainy season and induce breeding behaviour. Temps I'm not good at converting but my hot spot is usually at 90 -95 wich I thought is 30 - 33 C so 26 - 29 seems a tad low but my conversion may just be off?

[mykee]

If what Nita said is true, your temps are WAY TOO LOW. if 29 deg. is your hottest temp of the year (84.2) I'm surprised you don't have dead snakes. I would up those temps for daytime immediately to at between 33-35 deg. (90-95). your humidity also seems really high for the entire year; with a low of 70% and a high of 90% I would try to maintain a low of 50-60% and a high of maybe 80 for the "rainy season" (though I've never noticed a need to play with humidity to cue breeding if the temperatures are good).

[biber]

THANKS GUYS :)

[biber]

Day NIGHT
In celcius
I 28 25
II 29 26
III 30 27
IV 31 28
V 32 29
VI 32 29
VII 32 29
VIII 31 28
IX 30 27
X 30 27
XI 29 26
XII 28 25

Humidity:

I 65/70
II 60/65
III 60/65
IV 50/60
V 50/55
VI 50/55
VII 50/55
VIII 50/55
IX 60/70
X 80
XI 80
XII 70

Light:

I 10
II 11
III 11
IV 12
V 13
VI 14
VII 14
VIII 13
IX 12
X 11
XI 10
XII 9
What do you think about this?

[mykee]

Light and humidity look good, but temps are still too low at 31-32, aim for 33-35.