Adult JCP?

[Forever]

I'd just like to see some pictures of some adults. Thanks

[augerdvm]

check out Jeff Favelle's website

[JDouglas]

Come on no one wants to show their jungles. I don't own any but here are a few pics of a friends 03 Turner Jungle...
http://showcase.netins.net/web/reptiles/stuff/Devon/1.JPG

http://showcase.netins.net/web/reptiles/stuff/Devon/2.JPG

http://showcase.netins.net/web/reptiles/stuff/Devon/3.JPG

http://showcase.netins.net/web/reptiles/stuff/Devon/4.JPG

http://showcase.netins.net/web/reptiles/stuff/Devon/5.JPG

http://showcase.netins.net/web/reptiles/stuff/Devon/6.JPG

[dave68]

Kinda looks like a jungleXdiamond to me, anybody else.

Dave

[JDouglas]

OMG LMAO! Some people would be offended by your post but since it is not my Jungle I will shrug it off. This was produced by Matt Turner from Selective Origins. Well Dave68 some would say there are no true Jungles in the US or Canada and that all have been crossed at some point. I really don't know if that is true nor do I care but this particular Jungle is from the highly regarded German line that most people would kill to have. Their breeders came from bloodlines like German, Lazik, Black, Hamper and Futo lines. These are the BEST in the world. If you want to see what I am talking about check out...

selectiveorigins.com

[Tim Schroeder]

Unfortunately, there are two problems we Australian carpet keepers and breeders have when it comes to purity. First, Australia closed its borders to exportation about 30 (I think correct me if I'm wrong) years ago. So anything we have here either dates back through thirty years of breeding, or is from an illegally imported animal. Personally, I think the thirty years of breeding are enough to create some wild looking jungle carpet phenotypes, which some would call diamond crosses. I could be wrong, but I tend to liken jungles to chondros in their ability to show variance from the normal. Just take a look at the diversity of appearance chondros have gained through a similar period of captive breeding. Blue, yellows, greens, blacks, etc. Second, I'm not aware of any carpet breeder who has documented lineages that they are working with. All but a couple of my chondros have pedigrees going back to the WC founding stock, sometimes seven generations back. If we did have such documentation in jungles, I feel we would have a much better foundation to validate the purity of our carpets. I've pretty much given up arguing the point. We really are never going to know how pure jungle lines are, so at this point I'm just working on developing what we have here in NA to be as beautiful and breathtaking as possible.

I love the jungle pictured above, a truly beautiful specimen.

Oh, and by the way, to me it doesn't look like a diamond cross, but that is just me.

Tim

[Jeff_Favelle]

Exactly Tim. In terms of phenotype, changing colours and patterns in a snake is sooooo EASY. Look at the natural variance that already occurs. Colour and pattern are very very quick-changing characteristics. Its not like its an anatomical feature. Those things change over millions of years. But the ability to change colour and pattern can happen within a generation. Breed a pair of Carpets and see how many of the babies differ from the adults.

Did I mention that Carpets rule?

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery1/23.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery1/27.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery1/32.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery1/19.jpg

[Leviathan]

Jeff you have such gorgeous jungles! Here's my husbands baby, ya, he treats it like a baby!!! Now, I don't think that other one looks like a diamond cross but I sure do think this guy does. Who knows and I don't care! He is a beautiful snake and very tame!

http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/4639monkeyjag.JPG
Jag

Alecia

[Forever]

Sorry to "bump" this even though that is not an accurate description of my motivation. Does any one ave any pics of perception. That being like you with the snake or something that I would be familiar with when it comes to size. With all these Pics of them on their own their is very little perception involved. Thanks for those who posted. I particularily like the first Jungel that jeff posted. Even though it is a different look that I like basically when it comes to jungles.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Thanks Forever! That is a very very neat Jungle female that throws babies every year that look just like her. Not all her babies, but if she lays 25 eggs, at least 15-18 of them will look like her (or better). She is one of my favorite Jungles, for sure! Totally different than the typical Jungle. Just wait until I get some serious yellow into that bloodline! Its going to be insane!

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes1.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes2.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes3.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes4.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes5.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes6.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes7.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes8.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes9.jpg


Check out the yearling from last year's clutch from her. I bred her with my most intense yellow male. I think the result is most promising. Give me two more generations and its going to be INSANE!!! :D


http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/jungle_genes9a.jpg


And here's Mum again sittin' on some eggs! Photo taken last year in the middle of the night while I was half asleep, so don't hold it against me! :D

http://members.shaw.ca/gallery2/mum_jungle_genes.jpg

[spiderman]

jeff you have some absolutly stunning carpets!!!! i think maybe you could send some over to me??? lol

i tend to agree there are no 'true' jungles over here (uk), most have been crossed in one way or another. i got an adult pair last week, the female is 8ft and looks like pure costal, the male however is no doubt a cross. (ill post some pics when i get a bloody cam!)

i have seen some wild caught jungles, they were siezed by customs a long long time ago, went to a zoo and then a friend had them. they were nothing like the black and yellow jungles as most people percieve them to be, unfortunatly i didnt get any pics and he sold them before i had a chance to get hold them.

your right jeff - CARPETS RULE!!

adam

[Jeff_Favelle]

Thanks Adam! :D

Yeah, the wild ones are nothing like the ones we've selectively bred for the last 20 years. Both are very cool in my eyes. It'd be fun to work with new blood, but at the same time, its kind of nice to know that EVERY SINGLE snake people are offering for sale is captive-bred and that you don't have to compete with the wild trade, like say Ball Pythons. I like that.

Funny you mention that, but there's a few dozen Carpets floating around in Germany of mine. Ha ha!

[ExoticFish]

Wow...any nice picture...thkss