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Steeve B
02-19-04, 04:00 AM
This may help anyone achieve better incubation, from what I can see most hobbyist makes the same mistake over and over. Assuming you already know the temperature and humidity needs of your eggs, what do you know about its oxygen need?
Well let me tell you! When eggs are laid they need very little oxygen, however as there blood vessels and embryo grows so those the need for oxygen, also as the eggs develops and expand there permeability to both c02 and oxygen is greatly reduced.
Hers are the most common mistakes;
No1 flat line constant temps day and knight
No2 keeping the eggs at constant 100% humidity throughout the entire incubation
No3 not enough air exchange
No4 not considering temperature changes when servicing egg (add water temps and air temps)
Improving and correcting the above;
No1 no reptile eggs naturally incubates at a constant temp, a slight drop at knight influences development and skin pigmentation.
No2 To understand this simply try and breathe thru a wet face cloth, the egg shell works the same way, the higher c02 vapor the less oxygen that will pass thru the shell, I often see full term dead before hatching because the keeper increased humidity thinking it will help them hatch, in reality it drowns them, what you want to do is decrease your humidity as your eggs are progressing to a fluctuating 80-95%.
No3 just simply open your lid every second day to inspect your eggs, this will take care of gas and air exchange nothing more is needed, remember to check the bottom of the egg too! Many eggs indent from bottom.
No4 use common sense if you incubate eggs in a range of temperatures then open you egg box in an environment much lower the eggs will feel it, also be careful when you add water make sure its at the same temps as you incubate.

I posted this because I received a few ?? on this matter, hope it helps you improve!
Rgds

Dom
02-19-04, 08:47 AM
You talk about temp dropping during evening .. how uch are we talking about .. like a degree or .5 degree?

Thanks so much Steeve .. great information as well..

Linds
02-19-04, 11:21 AM
Very informative post! Thanks!

jungleshadows
02-19-04, 12:38 PM
I have always allowed for a 1 to 2 degree drop in temps.

I also do not worry about totally having my incubater sealed up or air tight. I do not use fans in them either.

I do however have them setup in a room of the house that cloely matches the temps within the incubator. This allows me to safely check on them.

Good Post Steeve, Oh yeah and I got your message. But I am not bengalensis. I know who she is though.


Mr. Jody Pieper

Steeve B
02-19-04, 01:45 PM
This post is complementary, it explain a little more!

First you need to understand why and how a slight temperature change is so important to a reptile egg, chalazae is a membrane that keeps avian yolk centered in the albumen, reptile eggs don’t have chalazae, therefore the yolk sinks by gravity and is much closer to the egg shell, as you may know the yolk holds all the trace elements and dna necessary for embryo development, by being directly against the egg shell any outside temp affects it in a much faster and direct way, also monitor eggs being soft shelled are more porous to humidity, gas, and air then hard shell eggs, one of the first organ directly affected by temperature is the hypothalamus to witch you link the pituitary gland, witch produces hormones for growth, pigmentation, and all the heritage physiological needs of the species, this is how they know everything without having mama to teach them. To see how temperature affect pigmentation simply look at your animal when cold then basking, this ability to darken and lighten is determined as embryo, excellent example who’d be captive produced prasinus coloration.

Dom as Jody says 1-2 degrees is plenty 3-4 shod be considered a maximum.
Jody how can I have confused you with bengalensis? Aim sorry its an honest mistake as I know you from the forums, sometime I try to respond to many peoples to clear my mail box, however I didn’t find the email your talking about, in any case pleas accept my apologies.
Rgds

reptiguy123
02-19-04, 05:04 PM
Holy ____, Steeve! You're like a freakin' encyclopedia! Thanks for the usefull info. Glad to see I'm doing things right!:D