Whats the difference between

[Solid Snake]

Coastals, IJs, Jungles.

I know Coastals grow alot bigger and jungles are more yellow but i can't really tell them apart. i want to know as much as i can before buying.

and could u put the average canadian prices for the 3 species?

thanks

[Zoe]

THey are three different subspecies.

Coastals get the biggest (between 8 and 12 feet, I suppose) and are (IMO) a little drabber in colour. But they do vary greatly, and some of the nicer ones are simply stunning. They tend to be calmer. They go for 175$ as babies, but some can go for less or a bit more.

IJs are the smallest (between 4 and 5.5 feet... 6-7 is rare but sometimes seen in older WC animals). They are mid prices, at 225-250 for babies and 300 for adults. You can get some really ugly IJs, and usually can't tell when you first get the baby because babies look different, so it would be a good idea to take a look at the parents, too. They usually have a dorsal stripe down their backs, and at a year old they are black and yellow. The ugly ones will fade and go brown, and the nice ones lose a bit of their brightness and contrast, and go more "caramelly".

Jungles are usually the highest of the "low end" carpet pythons. They grow bigger than IJs, about 6-7 or 8 feet. Same goes with these guys, you can get awesome bright, yellow and black ones (like Jeff Favelles :P) or you can get drab, black and grey ones. They go for 250-275 as babies and 300-350 for adults.

They are pretty easy to tell apart once you get the hand of it.

Coastal:
http://www.ncherps.com/Carpet02new.jpg

http://www.angelpoet.com/crittercards/card8.jpg


Irian Jaya:
http://www.indiepool.com/privateftp/archermultimedia/zoestevens/ms/gallery/images/ij0302.jpg

http://www.indiepool.com/privateftp/archermultimedia/zoestevens/ms/gallery/images/ij0201.jpg


Jungle:

http://www.morelia.ca/132.jpg

http://www.snakemuseum.com/photos/carpet.jpg


All are usually tame, jsut get a CB youngster and work with it.

Zoe

[Jeff_Favelle]

Totally go with what Zoe said. No matter what you get (IJ or Jungle, I doubt you want a Coastal) look at the parents. I know myself, and I know for sure Zoe, would be more than happy to let prospective customers see our breeding stock. They are easy to breed, so the hard part now, is concentrating on nice looking Irians and nice looking Jungles. Its a constant refinement, and we're just getting started in Canada. Its going to be fun! :D

[JDouglas]

Wow! according to the post above IJCP are a bit more expensive in Canada! Here in the USA we can get top of the line animals from top breeders like Yasser for $125 US.
Here is a great site that is dedicated to Morelia (carpets), come check it out!

MoreliaPythons.Com (http://www.moreliapythons.com/)

[Zoe]

Everything is more expensive in Canada :(

[JDouglas]

At least you have decent health care...

[RepTylE]

decent health care and poutine :)

[Solid Snake]

do JCPs lose their colour and turn dull as adults?

[Derrick]

Well they start off dull and color up with in a couple of years. From what I understand they do dull with age to vairing degrees. Better breeders are not just breeding for great color but also longevity of that color. Make sure you see the parents.

then again I bet your grandma looked better at 20 than she did at 70:) it just life

[Solid Snake]

lol i see... but most snakes look the same as they were from hatchlings, how come its different for carpets?

i mean, i dont see my boa's tail getting redder, or my BP getting browner...

[Jeff_Favelle]

lol i see... but most snakes look the same as they were from hatchlings,


Really? Not boids man. Other way around.

And the better breeders are breeding adults that still look nice. Its common knowledge that a Jungle's best color is at 2 years of age before they breed. Well good breeders are hanging on to those that stay nice and the thus those are the genes that are passed on. Constant refinement is what its all about.