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Mason
05-17-03, 11:45 PM
PUT TOGETHER A FEW PICS ON THE SUBJECT, SORRY IN ADVANCE IF SOME DON'T WORK.

http://www.aircav.net/survival/appe/fige-4.gif
http://www.manbir-online.com/grafics2/coral.jpg
http://www.manbir-online.com/grafics2/max2.jpg
http://www.manbir-online.com/grafics3/moccasin.gif
http://biology.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/Images/Naja_naja2.jpg

Mason
05-17-03, 11:50 PM
check this link too;) tons of names you may have already known, some you may not.
http://www-surgery.ucsd.edu/ent/DAVIDSON/Snake/2names.htm

Mason
05-18-03, 12:02 AM
HERE'S A LIABRARY FULL,
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libraries/photo

reverendsterlin
05-18-03, 12:56 AM
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Mason
05-18-03, 01:23 AM
k Reverand,

Time to update your website! You talking about stuff on it that might have happened 2 years ago. Which means that the site is even older than that.

(on it) You say you are a practicing witch, and something about druidism. I only know the Drewids through the movie SPACEBALLS, so maybe you could enlighten me as to the real meaning.

Otherwize, peace. Hope you got your degree and are happy at work following your dreams.

Thanx for the reply, you've got my respect.

http://www.tlchm.bris.ac.uk/webprojects2002/elsworth/nmjpres.gif

Mason
05-18-03, 01:56 AM
http://www.venomous.com/snake/Eyelashsmall.jpg
http://www.venomous.com/snake/atrox.gif
http://www.venomous.com/snake/C_lepidus.jpg

Nightflight99
05-18-03, 09:10 AM
Just a quick note on posting pictures: If you are posting pictures other than your own, <b>please be courteous and do so both with permission <u>and</u> appropriate credit given</b>.

The random, unauthorized use of pictures should be frowned upon, and can in extreme cases become basis to legal action.

Regards,

---Nightflight99

hip
05-18-03, 10:33 AM
Hey rev I guess he dosen't know you are doing a double masters at the same time(my hat is off to you man I coud never do it in a million)

reverendsterlin
05-18-03, 10:46 AM
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reverendsterlin
05-18-03, 10:49 AM
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ThEmAdHaTtEr
05-18-03, 10:52 AM
Sahweeeeeet pics mason. I think the diagrams are awesome. Welcome.

Gregg M
05-18-03, 01:52 PM
Hey Rev,
Looks like me and you have something in common other than snakes.......

Mason
05-18-03, 04:59 PM
Yah so you pay people to tell yo what to read, and in the end what to think. What can I say?

My Dad has a grade 8 education, I have only a few more credits. You think I'm stupid? Good. I found your post insulting too. My mind says you gotta relax a bit son. School got you stressed. I come from across the street from the ghetto, yah sounds funny to me 2. PEACE REV, I got no Beef with you, so don't bring me any.

As far as the pics being referenced, and credited? Right click,
check the properties. All the credits are there. All of those sites are provided for people like us to find, and enjoy. If you or anyone viewing this post want to have a look around the sites I referenced pics from that means I did everyone a favor, hosters and poster alike. <B> AS IF ANY OF THE SITES I "STOLE" PICS FROM ARE GONNA CALL UP SSNAKESS.COM AND COMPLAIN ABOUT A FEW PEOPLE LOOKING AT THEIR PICS</B> That would be kinda like stabbing yourself in the back. You're acting like I referenced porn from a members section.

As for you admins that are wondering wether or not to delete this post, or even go so far as to BAN me. I think we can all get along. I havn't done anything wrong. If I had I'm sure I would have gotten an email. I'm not swearing, or insulting people. I'm just frikken trying to fit in! MAD RESPECT TO THE ADMINS, WHEN I GET SOME XTRA CASH I'LL THROW IT TOWARD THE SITE. Just don't delete my posts please.


<B>MADHATTER IS ILL</B> HE KNOWS A GOOD PIC WHEN HE SEES IT. THANX FOR THE <B>ONLY</B> CHEERS I GOT.

hip
05-18-03, 09:52 PM
I guess you never saw the little c (for copywrite) thusly this means you need written permission to use this picture or written information not trying to offend you just letting you in on the law.I hope you follow up on the offer of throwing "some extra cash to the site"(actions speak louder than words)And in all honesty people will only assume how intellegent you are by what you post.Welcome to ssnakess(do not wake the dragon) enjoy your time here.



Hamburg show gettin closer by the day!!!!!!

Hip

reverendsterlin
05-18-03, 10:01 PM
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reverendsterlin
05-18-03, 10:14 PM
gotta leave off Hip :) won't fight a battle with someone that doesn't think

Gregg M
05-18-03, 11:38 PM
The ghettos of Toronto must be real tough.... LOL

V.hb
05-18-03, 11:38 PM
just out of curiousity what do you consider a ghetto in toronto? I have no beef either, but wheres the ghetto.....?

Nightflight99
05-18-03, 11:59 PM
@ Mason:

Right click, check the properties. All the credits are there.

The mere fact that you are able to track down the source of the pictures has little to do with proper crediting. It takes time and resources to be able to provide high-quality photgraphs and diagrams, with the product remaining property of the person who put them up. These pics are not public domain, and thus require permission to be used on other sites. Most people will certainly authorize the use of their pics for educational purposes, however, this does require a bit of common courtesy and deceny on your part, which is clearly lacking by posting those pics without proper crediting or authorization.

All of those sites are provided for people like us to find, and enjoy. If you or anyone viewing this post want to have a look around the sites I referenced pics from that means I did everyone a favor, hosters and poster alike.

While these sites are certainly provided for educational purposes, it is entirely different to simply take these pictures and post them on another site without any sort of crediting and/or authorization. You're certainly not doing anyone a favor by using their images without authorization.

AS IF ANY OF THE SITES I "STOLE" PICS FROM ARE GONNA CALL UP SSNAKESS.COM AND COMPLAIN ABOUT A FEW PEOPLE LOOKING AT THEIR PICS

Probably not, but if they would choose to do so, they would have a legal basis for it, which could produce a liability issue for the site.

That would be kinda like stabbing yourself in the back. You're acting like I referenced porn from a members section

Actually, it would be make perfect sense for someone to complain, as their images are being used without proper authorization or even simple crediting. If you would indeed reference porn, you would subject both this site and yourself to further liability, as this site does not have the proper disclaimers for adult content, and likely prohibits the posting of such in its user terms.

The issue is not whether or not you should post images with educational content. Worthwhile contributions are always welcome, and are the purpose of these types of communication media. The problem lies in the fact that you are posting images that are other people's property without authorization or proper crediting. A simple e-mail requesting permission and a proper credit are usually all it takes to post other people's photos. It is obvious that neither were obtained/provided in this case.

Regards,

---Nightflight99

BWSmith
05-19-03, 08:32 AM
it is particularly frowned upon when it has the copywrite symbol such as Wolfgang Wuster's picture you used. I for one take great pride in my photographs and would be furious if I saw them posted elswhere without credit or permission. It is a courtasy and a legallity. I have already had many people try to take credit for one of my photos. After many emails, those photos are offline. As a general rule, if I post someone elses pic, I will either email to get specific permission or at the very least write is cuch as :
This photo is from Joe Blow at www.joeblow.com

Just my 2 cents.

hip
05-19-03, 10:26 AM
Hey guys I was at mason's site and was doing some reading on his page.I think you all should read his work and I think you will learn whats up in his world.



Hip

Mason
05-19-03, 10:36 AM
post as much liftriff as you want. lol . . Just none of the pics cause SSNAKESS.COM doesn't have the propper disclaimers! Anyhow, that story is a little sketchy at parts, and the second story doesn't load due to code reasons. It'll be fixed soon enough, that's the Gem though, and it's not up :confused:

I think that some are confused as to how much I think. I would like to say on my behalf,

1. I'm not claiming any of those pics are mine, or taken by me. I found them on the net and thought this was a good forum to have them seen. All properties are their. I'm not trying to sell them either.

2. I didn't realize people here would get offended I posted those pics without permission. Next time I will get permission, and/or credit.

3. "The internet is a double edged sword" so don't cut yourself.

4. I grew up around crack heads. In Toronto most of the projects are hiddedn in nicer neighbourhoods. There were people stabbed and thrown down stairs in my highschool. Home invaders tied people up and stole their things. etc. Toronto's got the same crap any big city has. Just cause Micheal Moore says we all live in peace and don't lock out doors, doesn't mean it is true. Alot of crime around here goes unsolved. I'll post a pic of my old neighbourhood for yall.

5. I am DR POON! I guess I could be considered Reverand Poon too! But I'm not going to preech here

hip
05-19-03, 10:55 AM
Will probably will double your hits lol so you will get like 4 instead of 2 lol.I too wonder were the ghetto you live in is(I too live in T.O.) In a very small appt Guess I missed it but now I will look more closely when I am out and about.Too bad you are not accepting email and or private messages(I would fill you in on the Rev but chances are you would not listen anyway)You see he removed his posts (he is a poster of value here and a hot keeper as well)I would hope you do not cause him to remove any more posts( or the posts of any other hot keepers here either) As I had stated previously (In your stumbling around do not wake the dragon)Give credit were credit is due,I would ask you do you know the locality of the cobra you posted?Let me in on it cause I think I know were it is from.




Hip

hip
05-19-03, 11:14 AM
Hey B.W . that is a cool t shirt site thanks man(I must ask though do you have interest in that site? LOL)



Peace



HIp

dead bob
05-19-03, 11:47 AM
Real quick on linking photo's from other sites. When you do this, you are using that site's bandwidth. Those site's are paying for the bandwidth we are using to see the pics. This is generally frowned upon. Unfortunately, most sites do not know how to prevent this.

Just my 2cts.

hip
05-19-03, 11:51 AM
"The internet is a double edged sword" so don't cut yourself.


"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind is closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." -- Julius Caesar


As you can see it is credited to the speaker,and will give you a lesson as to were the saying double- edged sword orignated.

Any time you want to have an intellegent debate about history or lliterature let me know I will be more that willing to enlighten you on the works of greatest writers that have ever breathed a breath, or leaders that have risen and fallen in the past 3000 years.

Peace



Hip

BWSmith
05-19-03, 12:02 PM
LOL, i didn't even know it was an active link. Just an example.

hip
05-19-03, 12:32 PM
Then looking darkly upon Hektor swift-footed Achilleus answered: I cannot forgive you. As there are no trustworthy oaths between men and lions, so there can be no love between you and me, one or the other must fall before then to glut with his blood Ares the god who fights under the shields's guard. Remember every valour of yours, for now the need comes hardest upon you to be a spearmen and a bold warrior. There shall be no more escape for you. You will pay in a lump for all those sorrows of my companions you killed in your spear's fury."




"The Illiad of Homer"
translated by Richmond Lattimore
Paraphrased
for Simplicity




Hip

hip
05-19-03, 02:43 PM
In Toronto most of the projects are hiddedn in nicer neighbourhoods


Hence the term "nicer neibourhoods" lol

hip
05-19-03, 02:54 PM
I am DR POON! I guess I could be considered Reverand Poon too! But I'm not going to preech here



Only in your own mind




I hope your last name isn't Bates(being unmarried)using correct english english terms you would be refered to as master(mister after marrage only)So if you could be considered a reverend you probably have a cult following. I would recomend being aware of the cool aid(If past history is any example)I have a bit of preperation h to rub on your head (so you can get through the door)



Dis the Rev you dis me





Hip

Mason
05-19-03, 06:11 PM
Well, this is getting lame so I sent you an email hip. Reply if you think you can give me another chance!
http://www.dontshake.com/conferences/national/fourth/online/jack.gif (image provided courtesy of don't shake.com, just remember you can scold but don't skake!)

Gregg M
05-19-03, 06:39 PM
Hey Mason,
Would I get beat up if I walked around in your hood???? LOL......

hip
05-19-03, 07:27 PM
I guess I can let it slide,A tude only gets a tude(as you should know)You did disrepect the Rev(Yes he is a real reverend)So I wish you luck.




Hip

cobraman
05-19-03, 10:35 PM
I must be getting REAL old, I can't make heads or tails out of that site of his. Maybe I'M the dumb one here.
Blessings
Ray

Hamster of Borg
05-19-03, 10:48 PM
You're not alone... don't feel bad.

asphyxia
05-20-03, 06:13 AM
Actually, I can't believe that site still has a link to this site

Mustangrde1
05-21-03, 03:48 PM
Hmmmm , did i click on the right site , yup i did but its sure looking like a few other sites forums, to much bickering over some bigmouth. that obviously does not have the curtousy to ask permission for the use of pictures. and one that wants to bad mouth others just to get the attention, come on guys and gals , this site and its people are far better than to allow this to continue. I for one shall just ignore this person from now on he has proven himself and what he is.

moperri
05-21-03, 03:54 PM
I agree with you Mustangrde1......well said.

Mason
05-24-03, 01:10 AM
I agree with myself, I also agree with those that have a legit complaint other than "bla bla bla".

Copy rights are great, but if people didn't want their pics shown to the world they wouldn't have them on the web, and if they still cared after that, then they would have measures in place to stop that kind of thing.

I stick to my story I did nothing wrong, other than offend YOU!
(and if I didn't? then thanx for not caring, peace)

This board is too nice for me to vent...
I spend most of my days with people that are too good for all that visit here. I don't have the patience to explain my point, yet I think I have done a good job at doing so.
You people group together like a platoon of untrained soldiers. Let loose, spread out (or die together). If you still feel the inclination, HATE ME go ahead, but do it cause YOU chose to. Not cause I "dissed" one of your ministers and/or his/her henchmen.

Oh yah, and by the way; I met your mom, and she was ALOT nicer than YOU.