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soad
07-04-15, 10:38 AM
I'm a little confused on this. After reading Vincent Russo's explanation it makes it seem that most traits known to be co-dominant are actually incomplete dominance. Can anyone clear this up a bit for me? Basically anything with a super form should be an incomplete dominant trait right?

Albert Clark
07-04-15, 03:19 PM
Don't worry you are not alone. For the most part the two terms are basically the same but used interchangeably. And you are correct. Co Dom is a visible mutation when a single gene at a allele is different than normal. A matched pair of this gene brings on a "super" form that looks different than the single. A allele is one member of a pair of genes at the same locus or location. The locus is the location of a gene / allele on the dna strand.

lady_bug87
07-04-15, 10:16 PM
I'm a little confused on this. After reading Vincent Russo's explanation it makes it seem that most traits known to be co-dominant are actually incomplete dominance. Can anyone clear this up a bit for me? Basically anything with a super form should be an incomplete dominant trait right?

Short answer is yes.

An animal that has 2 copies of the incomplete dominant gene (co dom) is a super. Instead of passing the gene to 50% of the offspring it Will pass on one copy of the gene to ALL offspring because it has 2 copies of the gene instead of one.

Think of it as doubling up when it's a super.

In ball pythons some incomplete dominant genes are compatible with one another meaning you can produce the super without doubling the same gene (alleles)

For example: Mojave and lesser are part of the BEL complex meaning

Mojave x mojave will give you BELs
lesser x lesser will give you BELs
Mojave x lesser will give you BELs

The difference is in the breeding potential of the 3 different BELs.

The super Mojave (mojo x mojo) will produce a clutch of mojos

The super lesser (lesser x lesser) will produce a clutch of lessers

But the lesser mojo BEL will give you 50-50 lessers and mojos.

I know it was a ball python example but I hope it cleared it up for you!

Aaron_S
07-04-15, 10:25 PM
Don't worry you are not alone. For the most part the two terms are basically the same but used interchangeably. And you are correct. Co Dom is a visible mutation when a single gene at a allele is different than normal. A matched pair of this gene brings on a "super" form that looks different than the single. A allele is one member of a pair of genes at the same locus or location. The locus is the location of a gene / allele on the dna strand.

Wrong!

Incomplete dominance and co-dom are not "basically" the same. May be used to describe morphs but doesn't make them the same. People simply use co-dom in correctly.

Aaron_S
07-05-15, 08:57 AM
I always ask for sources so here's a good and easy to follow one. I'm simply too lazy to type out.
Co-dominance vs. Incomplete dominant - Genetic Wizard - World of Hognose (http://www.worldofhognose.com/wizard/genetics-co-dominant/)

Albert Clark
07-05-15, 09:11 AM
Wrong!

Incomplete dominance and co-dom are not "basically" the same. May be used to describe morphs but doesn't make them the same. People simply use co-dom in correctly.

Thanks for the clarification...:)

lady_bug87
07-05-15, 09:31 AM
I always ask for sources so here's a good and easy to follow one. I'm simply too lazy to type out.
Co-dominance vs. Incomplete dominant - Genetic Wizard - World of Hognose (http://www.worldofhognose.com/wizard/genetics-co-dominant/)

That's an interesting way to put it. I think co dom works better to describe pairings that are allelic instead of being a catch all for all incomplete dominant genes.

soad
07-05-15, 11:13 AM
Thanks everyone for the help! It is much less confusing now! That link was a big help.