In Some Chicks House... Now in Mine :)

[aaron_cg]

So, I advertise around to remove animals from peoples homes that they no longer want (or ever did). From wild to domestic. Anyways, today I got a call from a female who claimed to have a "King Cobra" (her words). Anyways long story short, when I got there, low and behold I have found this guy/girl.

I don't have much experience with carpets, but I have looked up there care, and tomorrow I am heading out to get some heating supplies, and pretty soon s/he will have a front opening enclosure. The last pic is musk, I think... Do Carpets musk? Also, can anyone give me a best guess as to what type s/he is? About 6 feet long, between 10-15 pounds would be my guess. And a yellow and black coloration. Based on about 10 minutes of google research, s/he seems to be Jungle Carpet

So far s/he hissed a little, but no strike attempts. And s/he does this weird head helicopter/unwhirl thing. Is that normal?

Anyways, on to the pics!!!

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w662/aaron_gibson2/CAM010321_zps0e036aaa.jpg

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w662/aaron_gibson2/CAM010361_zps801d34aa.jpg

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w662/aaron_gibson2/CAM010391_zps7f3f7b75.jpg

[Sharlynn93]

looks like a jungle, and the right size... :) very beautiful!

[sharthun]

Beautiful snake snake!

[sharthun]

Beautiful snake!

[kwhitlock]

Man what a beautiful cobra! ;) haha! I think it's a jungle too!

[Mikoh4792]

The looks are jungle, but with carpets you can't ever be sure without lineage information. I have seen diamond/coastal/jungles look like jungles, I've seen diamond/jungles look like jungles...etc. There is so much mixing going on you can't be sure. But just going by looks I'd say it's a jungle... and nice looking one too.

What do you mean by weird helicopter whirl thing?

[aaron_cg]

When I was holding s/he, it was wrapped around my arm, and hanging down. Well its body was twisted, and the head was upside down. When it corrected itself, it did this weird thing, and it like whipped it's head around. And the only way I can't think to describe it, is it looked like a helicopters propellers.

[Mikoh4792]

Maybe it lost balance. A video would help, and if it keeps showing signs of weird head movements a vet would be the person to go to.

[TurboChris]

Wow very cool back story and rescue! Awesome snake! Don't forget to quarantine from your other snakes especially your boa/pythons with that IBD that I had read some true horror stories about!
Lucky guy! A dumerils and a carpet python, the two snakes I was torn between before I picked up my dumerils, wish I could have both :-)

[formica]

thats not musk, its poop lol most likley it hasnt been handled very much, lots of reptiles poop as a defense mechanism



what you describe, ''helicopter propeller'', sounds like the ''cork screw'' motion that some jags have, when they have ''neuro'' issues, ie coordination and balance problems - only seen it in videos myself, plenty on youtube if you want to check it for yourself

[TheFrogman]

Nice Jungle, very pretty

[thinkbig317]

Beautiful jungle! Congrats!

[aaron_cg]

I've seen IBD before, and I don't believe it was that. Looking up some videos I think he just lost its balance or something. Once I get some heat on him in a minute, and let him settle, I'll be able to to tell more

[Terranaut]

IBD kills pythons quickly. I think if that was the case...you would know.
Nice "cobra"...:)

[CameronVarnish]

I know he is not a jag but a lot of the time jags and spider bp's do some weird head tail thingy.

[aaron_cg]

Haha, I was on the way out and my fiance was like "1st of all, we are not keeping a cobra, 2nd of all if it a cobra just get it out and you can call Mike". Mikes the guy I give hots to. Anyways turned to be this guy that was in her attic. I'm happy with the find. And from looking around online, I believe it's a Jag/Jungle

[Terranaut]

Not a jag....this is a jungle jag.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/20131024_211630_zpse1ab61c3.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/terranaut0/media/20131024_211630_zpse1ab61c3.jpg.html)

[aaron_cg]

Wow, incredibly beautiful! So just a jungle carpet then?

[Mikoh4792]

Yes. Jaguar is a coastal carpet python morph.

Your carpet is not a morph animal. And the neuro issues found in jags stay in jags. It's part of the gene. So if you breed a jag to a normal, the normals of that clutch will not inherit the neuro issues.

Your carpet pythons "helicopter" movements should be a separate issue.

[charlesc84]

I have 2 carpets that go crazy and whip their bodies around when I handle them to long(Which is sometimes just a minute haha). I think this is likely what the snake is doing.

[aaron_cg]

Thanks for the info, once he's all settled in I'll see about getting a video up.

[Tsubaki]

Very nice looking animal! :D and what a story

[aaron_cg]

So, heres a pic I snapped last night of how his setup looks. The only thing you cant see is a heat bulb up top. Once I make his permanent home, I plan to get him a RHP.

Anyways, anything you guys think I should do different? Thats the coco bark on the bottom and he has the water bowl. Its a screen top and the humidity right now is right around 50% (partially covered.) The light is on a dimmer and gives a basking spot of 88 degrees.

Ohh and I measured him last night, he is right around 7 1/2 feet

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w662/aaron_gibson2/20140225_080746_zpsbd7a81e2.jpg

[aaron_cg]

So, heres a pic I snapped last night of how his setup looks. The only thing you cant see is a heat bulb up top. Once I make his permanent home, I plan to get him a RHP.

Anyways, anything you guys think I should do different? Thats the coco bark on the bottom and he has the water bowl. Its a screen top and the humidity right now is right around 50% (partially covered.) The light is on a dimmer and gives a basking spot of 88 degrees.

Ohh and I measured him last night, he is right around 7 1/2 feet

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w662/aaron_gibson2/20140225_080746_zpsbd7a81e2.jpg

Damn Double post....

[Mikoh4792]

Perch would be better off with two to three pvc pipes parallel to eachother so he can perch on it easier.

That thin pipe won't do much for climbing space since your carpet is pretty big.

[aaron_cg]

Are talking about another set of legs in the middle? I have a dowel rod in the middle of the pipe across the top so it's fairly strong.

[kwhitlock]

Are talking about another set of legs in the middle? I have a dowel rod in the middle of the pipe across the top so it's fairly strong.

Believe mikoh was saying to make the base wider, either using bigger tubing or putting multiple pvc pipes width wise making the perch wider and easier to get on.

[Mikoh4792]

I mean something like this

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a594/mikoh4792/DSC_1146_zps4c3184e5.jpg

I don't think your big carpet will find that skinny individual tube comfy to climb on. If you put two or three more next to eachother, his body would have more support while climbing or resting on the perch.

[aaron_cg]

Oh OK, that makes much more sense haha. I can definitely do something like that with some pvc I have. When I get his permanent enclosure set up I'll be able to get something better as well. Not made from pvc haha

[frustrated mom]

very pretty snake thank u for the pic my son is sitting here,,,saying how cute he is

[aaron_cg]

So I am doing a rough sketch while I'm here bored at work... Does this look good for a permanent enclosure size? He is about 7.5 feet long (actually measured him last night). I'm looking at 5 feet long, 2 feet tall, and 2 feet deep. Obviously there would be wire around the bulbs to ensure he can't burn himself.
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w662/aaron_gibson2/Mobile%20Uploads/20140225_151243_zpsffimuinn.jpg

[Terranaut]

I personally would heat it using a different heat source but the dimensions are good. He will use it all.

[aaron_cg]

I want to upgrade to a rhp, but this is based of the stuff I have at home right now

[formica]

checkout MCB's setup, and also Mikoh's pics, the perches are best installed across the width of the enclosure, attached to the walls

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/boa-constrictor/104421-one-day-go.html

and agree with the above re heat source, rhp is a better option - if you use ceramic, make sure you install a shield, and you'll need to spray allot more to keep the humidity up

[aaron_cg]

Beautiful set up indeed! How would you recommend utilizing the shelf in? My concern being with using screws, it would leave sharp edges, when the head is.

[formica]

Beautiful set up indeed! How would you recommend utilizing the shelf in? My concern being with using screws, it would leave sharp edges, when the head is.

counter sink them, and for extra sooth, a little drop of silicone

[aaron_cg]

Well, why didn't I think of that?? So easy. Thanks for all the help guys!

[IW17]

Ceramic heat emitter is fine. I use one in my 6x2x2 and I have no issues with humidity or heat. Just don'tgo crazy on vventilation and use a large water bowl and you'll be good. Mine has a 1x1 water dish and my humidity stays between 40-50% during these dry winter months with no misting.

[IW17]

And as said above a bulb guard is absolutely necessary. The surface will hit several hundred degrees.

[aaron_cg]

Definitely. I did say above I plan new on some chicken wire to fashion a bulb guard.

[Lankyrob]

Definitely. I did say above I plan new on some chicken wire to fashion a bulb guard.

Chicken wire is too flexible imo, i wouldn't trust anything homemade and would buy a "proper" guard that is made for purpose.

[formica]

yep get a purpose made guard, snakes are powerful animals, chicken wire will be bent into a dangerous position overnight

[aaron_cg]

OK, where can I get a purpose built guard?

[Mikoh4792]

do you need to use a bulb? Radiant heat panels are easier, more efficient, and safer to use.(Also last longer with most providing 10 year warrantees)

[Mikoh4792]

And no guards needed for Radiant heat panels.

[Lankyrob]

Reptile bulb guard | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XRe ptile+bulb+guard&_nkw=Reptile+bulb+guard&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

[aaron_cg]

The reason I am asking about the bulb guard is because I have everything I need minus the bulb guard to start building the permanent set up, and it will be cheaper to get that, than a rhp at the moment. Now I plan to upgrade to a rhp in the future, but I want to get him into a better enclosure asap.

[Mikoh4792]

Any updates on the helicopter motion thing? How's his new enclosure coming along?

[aaron_cg]

I actually have a breeder friend coming to look at him on Monday. He's going to tell me what it is, and he may be going home with him.