Carpet Python Cage?

[JonahTakalua]

Hey guys,
I just got an offer from a friend for a 36x18x36 eco terra tank for 100. I was wondering if a tiger coastal could live in it for its' whole life? I remember reading on acreptiles.com that tigers are smaller than normal coastals. Thanks.

[Terranaut]

Probably just fine. I keep an almost 8' jcp in a 48x20x48. I keep her male un there quite often for breeding and it is plenty of room for both.

[Mikoh4792]

Well people keep and breed carpets in 40 gallon tanks(36x18x18) so it should be fine for most carpets. The extra height will be good if you can install perches.

I'm not too knowledgeable on the tiger coastal gene, but I'm pretty sure they stay small because of the fact that they have northern blood in them.(Northern locality coastals vs southern locality coastals). I have a pair of rockhampton coastals and they should max out around 6 feet(maybe even 5 feet). When you get into localities like brisbane(sourthern) then you start seeing huge 8ft+ monsters.

[JonahTakalua]

Thank guys!

[metalcopper]

Do the Rockhampton Coastals always stay smaller, around the 6 foot length?

[Mikoh4792]

Do the Rockhampton Coastals always stay smaller, around the 6 foot length?

Don't know about always, but that is certainly what I'm getting from the breeders I've been talking to.

"They are a neat bloodline and they stay pretty small . One of my breeder females is 7 years old and only 4.5ft long and 1200g!" - Nick Mutton

" The caramels are small on average because they have rockhampton in them and that is a small locale." - Eric Koller

And it's a pretty commonly accepted notion that northern localities stay small.

http://www.istanbul-city-guide.com/map/australia/rockhampton/Australia_Rockhampton_map.gif

Here you can see brisbane is near the south, and rockhampton is more up north.

[metalcopper]

I've really been looking in to Carpets lately, I want a smaller one, so I've been leaning towards an IJ. I've looked at Nick Mutton's site, he has a particular Coastal I really like the looks of. The description says it is from a Caramel to a Striped Coastal pairing. I sent an email asking for some info on it, but I'm thinking that it is going to be a bigger snake than I want as an adult.
Sorry, didn't mean to commandeer this thread.

[Terranaut]

Just so your aware, carpets are not a problem if they are big. A 7' carpet is not any different than a 5' carpet in most respects. If your not a herp person then a 7' snake seems way bigger but seriously size is it. As far as keeping them the foot or two difference is nothing. Get the carpet you want and don't let a little length deter you.

[metalcopper]

I'm not worried about the size as far as handling one, I have a Burm and a Boa, it's just that I don't want another 10 foot snake right now, bigger snake equals more food and larger enclosure, so that's why I'm avoiding Coastals. I really like the look of IJ's and Jungles too. What is the size and personality differences between these three Carpets typically?

[Mikoh4792]

I'm not worried about the size as far as handling one, I have a Burm and a Boa, it's just that I don't want another 10 foot snake right now, bigger snake equals more food and larger enclosure, so that's why I'm avoiding Coastals. I really like the look of IJ's and Jungles too. What is the size and personality differences between these three Carpets typically?


So variable. You have small and big individuals of both. I commonly see 7ft IJ's and also commonly hear of small coastals. Will Bird has 8 to 9ft jungles(Terranuat seems to have one that is 8ft). But you also have jungles that max out around 4 to 5 feet.

It really depends on genetics and food intake. Find out the lineage behind a snake and feed it conservatively. You won't have a problem.

Right now my 2012 IJ is bigger than my 2011 jungle.... and my ij is a male while my jungle is a female. Lots of variability.