Jag x Jag

[red ink]

Does anyone know if the Jag offsprings from Jag x Jag pairings are more susceptible to "break dancing"?

[Mikoh4792]

Should ask on facebook, you'll get more replies there.(since there's an actual carpet python group)

[Wama]

Yes they are

[red ink]

Should ask on facebook, you'll get more replies there.(since there's an actual carpet python group)

Too many muppets on facebook...

[Mikoh4792]

What's a muppet? Can't find the definition other than the Muppets show

[red ink]

What's a muppet? Can't find the definition other than the Muppets show

Cooloquially = a jerk off or closest definition of. Ignoramous would be another synonym for it. Know it alls with no substance...

[smy_749]

I believe Derek Roddy said no, but I can't be certain as to the explanation. Maybe he can chime in. We call muppets trolls :P

[Mikoh4792]

ah Awesome.

[Derek Roddy]

No, I haven't noticed them being more neuro than jag/normal pairings. At least during my breedings trails with em.

Yes, All jags have the potential to become really bad and all jags display the wobble in some way but, I haven't noticed any bad neuro with any of my animals. I believe it has to do with how much stress (this can be handling, heat, cold, etc) they endure throughout their lives. I leave my snakes alone and I think it helps control the "break dancing" back to some degree. Haha.

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[red ink]

No, I haven't noticed them being more neuro than jag/normal pairings. At least during my breedings trails with em.

Yes, All jags have the potential to become really bad and all jags display the wobble in some way but, I haven't noticed any bad neuro with any of my animals. I believe it has to do with how much stress (this can be handling, heat, cold, etc) they endure throughout their lives. I leave my snakes alone and I think it helps control the "break dancing" back to some degree. Haha.

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Thanks for the info mate...

I really like this point, seeing as newbs are attracted to shiny things. I would then hazzard to put JAGS into the "not a good first snake" category for the sake of the animal itself.

[Stewjoe]

Both my Jags are much more aggressive than their wild counterparts. On a day to day basis I don't notice any neuro issues; The only times I do is when they strike and/or try and escape. They lose their balance briefly until they reorient themselves, especially after striking at me. I have heard that exposure to chemicals and toxins (nix) and being kept in small enclosures contribute to problems.

Mine are both from Jag X Wild pairings but I firmly believe that a Jag X Jag offspring is no more prone to issues than any other. They still only have one copy of the allele.

[Donnie]

Does anybody know if there have ever been any lucistic (sp?) survive any length of time?

[millertime89]

Does anybody know if there have ever been any lucistic (sp?) survive any length of time?

Longest I've heard is a few months. Never got an update on the individual after that so I'm assuming it finally died.

[shaunyboy]

as far as i've read,there's no rhyme or reason,as to which hatchlings break dance and which don't mate.....

as far as i know,you can put 2 parents with no neuro issues together and get neuro hatchlings,also you can put 2 parents together that show neuro issues and the hatchlings show no neuro issues

the only issues you can predict with certainty of a Jag x Jag pairing is.....

if they produce leucistic (supers) they will die in the egg or shortly after leaving the egg

ive also read that Jag x Jag pairings produce a higher amount of Jags in the clutch,than a Jag x non Jag pairing would produce


cheers shaun