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Hotchkiss
12-02-13, 09:10 AM
Green Anacondas are probably my favorite snake... But I can't keep one for obvious reasons. Does anyone know if there are dwarf varieties? I've looked it up but it didn't turn up much
RyanReptile
12-02-13, 09:33 AM
Yellow anacondas stay relatively smaller.
kwhitlock
12-02-13, 09:40 AM
I do believe I've read that yellow Annie's stay smallish. Like females around 10-12 feet, and makes are 7-10? Not sure need clarification on that.
Hotchkiss
12-02-13, 09:42 AM
I know that yellows stay smaller... But I really prefer green. So, no-one knows of dwarfs greens then?
Kid Boa
12-02-13, 01:52 PM
There are no dwarf green anacondas that I have ever heard of. I don't know what your size limitations are or local laws but male green anacondas only reach a length of about 10ft.
Females are the 18+ft monsters.
warehouse13fan
12-02-13, 03:01 PM
i would love to see a dwarf vareity in greens...
Robin.M
12-02-13, 04:35 PM
Females are the 18+ft monsters.
Please show me pictures with something for comparison to back up your statement of "18+ foot monsters"
Hotchkiss, if you have experience with larger boas and pythons, a Green Anaconda could make a great pet. They get NOWHERE NEAR the sizes that you hear people talking about.
There are currently no Dwarf Green Anacondas, but Green Anacondas do grow extremely slow. If you get one from a baby let it grow up with you, that 10+ foot snake might not actually feel like a 10+ foot snake.
I would recommend a Green Anaconda over a Yellow Anaconda simply because Yellows have a reputation for being a bit more temperamental than their Green counterparts.
My female Green is an absolute sweetheart. She's a year old, only 3 1/2 - 4 feet long, and feeding on medium rats. They DO NOT grow 8 feet a year like a lot of people claim, they DO NOT gain 50 pounds in their first year. These are numbers created by people who want to feel manly for keeping "monster" snakes, or by those who powerfeed since babies and create an obese blob that can't move.
If you want to make the commitment for a Green Anaconda, make sure to do your research. Talk to keepers of the species to get the ins and outs of husbandry and handling. Find a food source in your area, and a vet that will treat snakes if required (especially larger boids such as Green Anacondas). It's a big commitment, not only for the space required but because they require a bit more care than the average snake. Cleaning massive "poop soup" bowls and "pee supreme bowls" every couple of days can take the wind out of your sails pretty quick, but when you take that Green beauty out to handle and look down and say to yourself, "I'm holding a Green Anaconda".... it makes everything worth it.
They are the king of kings... Good luck with your decision.
Rob
Hotchkiss
12-02-13, 05:21 PM
Please show me pictures with something for comparison to back up your statement of "18+ foot monsters"
Hotchkiss, if you have experience with larger boas and pythons, a Green Anaconda could make a great pet. They get NOWHERE NEAR the sizes that you hear people talking about.
There are currently no Dwarf Green Anacondas, but Green Anacondas do grow extremely slow. If you get one from a baby let it grow up with you, that 10+ foot snake might not actually feel like a 10+ foot snake.
I would recommend a Green Anaconda over a Yellow Anaconda simply because Yellows have a reputation for being a bit more temperamental than their Green counterparts.
My female Green is an absolute sweetheart. She's a year old, only 3 1/2 - 4 feet long, and feeding on medium rats. They DO NOT grow 8 feet a year like a lot of people claim, they DO NOT gain 50 pounds in their first year. These are numbers created by people who want to feel manly for keeping "monster" snakes, or by those who powerfeed since babies and create an obese blob that can't move.
If you want to make the commitment for a Green Anaconda, make sure to do your research. Talk to keepers of the species to get the ins and outs of husbandry and handling. Find a food source in your area, and a vet that will treat snakes if required (especially larger boids such as Green Anacondas). It's a big commitment, not only for the space required but because they require a bit more care than the average snake. Cleaning massive "poop soup" bowls and "pee supreme bowls" every couple of days can take the wind out of your sails pretty quick, but when you take that Green beauty out to handle and look down and say to yourself, "I'm holding a Green Anaconda".... it makes everything worth it.
They are the king of kings... Good luck with your decision.
Rob
Great post! I'm going to get a BCI and see how that goes for a couple of years to decide whether or not to commit to an anaconda. And again, Graet post.
smy_749
12-02-13, 05:48 PM
3 and a half feet in a year? That makes retics sound ridiculous. Didn't know they grew that slow. Nice post pure boa.
Sublimeballs
12-02-13, 09:18 PM
Females are the 18+ft monsters.
To be fair pureboa with how long the false statements in the reptile industry about how large large snakes get, unless one has done their own research on the subject, it's easy to take others word. Large snakes sizes are vastly over exaggerated. Green anaconda females seem to max out at 16 feet, Burms at under 19, and retics under 25(not sure how valid the new record holder is at 25feet).
There are 4 species of anaconda: Eunectes murinus(green), Eunectes beniensis(Bolivian), Eunectes notaeus(yellow), and Eunectes deschauenseei(dark spotted). I've never seen the dark spotted or Bolivian for sale, but that doesn't mean it's an impossibility. Both of them look similar to the green anaconda. the bolivian is similar in size to the green, but the dark spotted is smaller like the yellow. But seeing as these are probably not accessible, your best bet is a male green, or just get a yellow.
But take everything pureboa said into consideration. Anaconda ownership means constantly cleaning an ever growing water bowl/toilet.
Starbuck
12-02-13, 10:10 PM
Great post! I'm going to get a BCI and see how that goes for a couple of years to decide whether or not to commit to an anaconda. And again, Graet post.
I hope you mean keep the BCI forever, just wait a bit before making a decision on the anaconda; Not use the BCI as a stepping stone to rehome once you decide to commit to the anni?!?!?!?
If you are getting a snake please make sure you are committing to that animal for the duration of its life. 25 years form now, will you be in a place to care for and house a bci and an anaconda? what about all the years in between?
Sorry if that ws not your intent, but i get really fired up over the idea that pets are transient collectables. If you are moving breeding stock between breeders for a business that is one thing, but a pet is something else entirely.
KORBIN5895
12-03-13, 01:27 AM
You took it wrong Starbuck
Hotchkiss
12-03-13, 05:45 AM
I hope you mean keep the BCI forever, just wait a bit before making a decision on the anaconda; Not use the BCI as a stepping stone to rehome once you decide to commit to the anni?!?!?!?
If you are getting a snake please make sure you are committing to that animal for the duration of its life. 25 years form now, will you be in a place to care for and house a bci and an anaconda? what about all the years in between?
Sorry if that ws not your intent, but i get really fired up over the idea that pets are transient collectables. If you are moving breeding stock between breeders for a business that is one thing, but a pet is something else entirely.
Oh no! I plan on keeping the BCI.
Kid Boa
12-03-13, 07:52 AM
Please show me pictures with something for comparison to back up your statement of "18+ foot monsters"
Hotchkiss, if you have experience with larger boas and pythons, a Green Anaconda could make a great pet. They get NOWHERE NEAR the sizes that you hear people talking about.
There are currently no Dwarf Green Anacondas, but Green Anacondas do grow extremely slow. If you get one from a baby let it grow up with you, that 10+ foot snake might not actually feel like a 10+ foot snake.
I would recommend a Green Anaconda over a Yellow Anaconda simply because Yellows have a reputation for being a bit more temperamental than their Green counterparts.
My female Green is an absolute sweetheart. She's a year old, only 3 1/2 - 4 feet long, and feeding on medium rats. They DO NOT grow 8 feet a year like a lot of people claim, they DO NOT gain 50 pounds in their first year. These are numbers created by people who want to feel manly for keeping "monster" snakes, or by those who powerfeed since babies and create an obese blob that can't move.
If you want to make the commitment for a Green Anaconda, make sure to do your research. Talk to keepers of the species to get the ins and outs of husbandry and handling. Find a food source in your area, and a vet that will treat snakes if required (especially larger boids such as Green Anacondas). It's a big commitment, not only for the space required but because they require a bit more care than the average snake. Cleaning massive "poop soup" bowls and "pee supreme bowls" every couple of days can take the wind out of your sails pretty quick, but when you take that Green beauty out to handle and look down and say to yourself, "I'm holding a Green Anaconda".... it makes everything worth it.
They are the king of kings... Good luck with your decision.
Rob
Your right Rob.
I used the wrong terminology. I was simply trying to state that the males stay a manageable size of approximately 10ft while the females get considerably larger.
Personally I only know what I have read since I do not have any practical experience with females only males.
marvelfreak
12-03-13, 08:59 AM
Just for the record a BCI is not really going to prepare you for keeping an anaconda IMO. Something like a Blood python would be more like the perfect next step to see if your ready for a anaconda. I said this because Bloods are as close as you can come to a Anaconda behavior, but in a smaller sizes. I have talked with many people that have own or worked with both and they all agree with me about how they behavior mirrors each other. Most are temperamental and you never want to let your guard down.The power of say a 5 foot Blood or Anaconda is about the equivalent of the power of a 9 to 10 foot Burmese or Retic.
Also your 15 if you did get a Anaconda then go off to collage do you have some one who would be willing to take care of it? You're still new to snakes take your time learn to work with different kind of snakes then when your older and have a place of your own then think about getting one. For now i would just get more experience under your belt. I had Burmese with the first year of keeping snakes but i waited till i had been keeping snake almost 6 years before i felt comfortable to get my first anaconda.
Also on a side note when you get one get a baby that way you have time to work with it and get to learn how to read it behavior. Learning how to read any snake behavior can be the difference between a close call and stitches.
Lord Vladimir
12-05-13, 04:42 AM
I agree with chuck.
I have no issues with finding somebody to take care of my Corn and King when I go on holiday. My yellow, on the other hand, goes to a reptile shop with a 'hotel' service. I can do pretty much everything with him, but to others he is the famous psychotic chainsaw.
To make things worse, I was working with my Fiancee and Beelzebub (my yellow) to get used to each other. From one day to a other he was aggressive to her, later we found out that she was pregnant and he didn't like that. (confirmed by the co owner of the reptile shop, who is also pregnant :P)
At the age of 15, I would strongly advice to wait with big snakes in general. At least till you can take the responsibility (in care taking and financial) for a commitment for more then 10 years.
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