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Old 05-04-12, 02:19 PM   #46 (permalink)
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There is several ways to floor heat a larger enclosure.

Look up radiant floor heating, it involves pumping hot water through a long plastic pipe under the floor of the cage.

It's commonly used in household heating (like bathrooms with heated floors)

Also, Heating mats for human use are excellent.

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yes but you mentioned a "tube" heater. Is that a fish tank tube heater? and where do you place it? Is it inside the substrate or dangling off the glass wall?
Also these heat tracks... are they ok to be placed under the "plastic" rim of the bottom o the tank?
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I've always been interested in owning a monitor lizard, and of all the species its hard to pick just one. But knowing the requirements of a monitor, and that they are NOT snakes, and cannot be cared for in any similar manner really, I have stayed back as I don't necessarily have all that much time to myself occasionally. Soon though, things will be more organised and I'd like to look into getting a slightly larger lizard again(I had a bearded dragon for a few years a while back) and have recently fallen in love with the Kimberly Rock Monitor. Of course information is scarce at best when it comes to monitors, let alone certain specific species, but probably half of contradicts the other half so its rather difficult for me to pick a way to go about this. I know that Kimberly's aren't Sav's, but I constantly hear monitor care is pretty much a standard throughout, so I thought I would come here with some questions...
Firstly, With the Kimberly Rock monitors being more arboreal, would a 12" substrate be suifficient with enough climbing room? Or do arboreal monitors still like to burrow deep? Either way I gotta put a new retaining wall up in the cage I want to start with, just wondering how high it should be as it starts cutting into the height as the top is already attached. In which case I ditch that enclosure idea all together and start fresh with something else lol. Its a nice 6'Lx2'D'x4'H that I think would suit a young monitor for a little while at least. Or is it better to give them their adult enclosure right off the bat maybe??
Next thing I have questions about is lights and humidity. I can quite easily place a light fixture in the cage, or on top, but I have never really used lights as they dry my enclosures out way too much(Kelowna is on the tip of a desert believe it or not) so personally I can't stand them. Would a radient heat panel and a UV light be sufficient? I suppose all the extra substrate helps keep the humidity up, but I'd feel safer with a heat panel anyway. Then comes substrate heating... how do you heat up 24" of substrate with a UTH of any kind? Or is the burrow meant to be cool? Sorry for all the disorganised questions, thanks for the thread Wayne!
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I don't think you want an enclosure too big when they are small because they need to find their food but i could be wrong. I am not a monitor pro but with other chams and such that was definitely the case....so I don't see why it wouldn't be the same but wait for other experienced replies
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Monitors will always find there food. A baby monitor can be in a 10x10 ft cage if it's set up properly. A lot of hides and cover are a MUST
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I don't think you want an enclosure too big when they are small because they need to find their food but i could be wrong. I am not a monitor pro but with other chams and such that was definitely the case....so I don't see why it wouldn't be the same but wait for other experienced replies
I know this guy who is raising a pair of baby monitors in this really big size enclosure, and his always find the food just fine.


I heard it's good stimulation for the animals to hunt for their prey.
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I know this guy who is raising a pair of baby monitors in this really big size enclosure, and his always find the food just fine.


I heard it's good stimulation for the animals to hunt for their prey.
Yes and i know of a bloke raising up two boscs in an 8 by 4 by 4...
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yes but you mentioned a "tube" heater. Is that a fish tank tube heater? and where do you place it? Is it inside the substrate or dangling off the glass wall?
Also these heat tracks... are they ok to be placed under the "plastic" rim of the bottom o the tank?
I mentioned a tube heater this sort of thing:

Sunhouse Tube Heaters With Fitted Plug :: Tubular Heaters :: Tubular Heating :: Heaters :: CNM Online

i wouldnt have a clue where to start looking for these in the US but they are extremely common over here...

cheap and they dont get hot enough to burn to touch.

Heat a large area very efficiently.
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Kims same as ackies just bigger.

15" id go for personally a few of my felllow UK keepers have had issues using shallower substrate depths and have had nesting issues.

Heating the substrate what are your ambient temperatures in your house on the floor?
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I know this guy who is raising a pair of baby monitors in this really big size enclosure, and his always find the food just fine.


I heard it's good stimulation for the animals to hunt for their prey.
Ha! Ive heard of that guy too!

Monitors are much different than chameleons. You want them moving! The more they have to search for their food, the better in my opinion. Keep them active as much as possible.
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I mentioned a tube heater this sort of thing:

Sunhouse Tube Heaters With Fitted Plug :: Tubular Heaters :: Tubular Heating :: Heaters :: CNM Online

i wouldnt have a clue where to start looking for these in the US but they are extremely common over here...

cheap and they dont get hot enough to burn to touch.

Heat a large area very efficiently.
These are awesome; never even seen these before.
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These are awesome; never even seen these before.
There cracking cheap to buy cheap to run... and they dont get crazy hot either.
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I actually is looking for some now. They seem way better than a rhp.
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I actually is looking for some now. They seem way better than rhp.
whats an rhp?
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