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Old 09-05-17, 07:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Written off morphs

I have been reading a few older books recently and have come across a few morphs that I no longer see in the market. I assume that they were proven "uninheritable" but after further consideration I began to wonder how many of these traits are more than just simple recessive. I have not been into the hobby for long and have not yet bred anything so was wondering what the more experienced members thought about this. Also what morphs are you all aware of that have gone by the wayside, especially the ones that may fit into my line if thought?
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Re: Written off morphs

Now I am curious what these extinct morphs are!
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Well I think the most commonly discussed is the jungle. Certainly "random" occurrence morphs like paradoxes and ringers may be less random but just misunderstood, especially as they are more common with in certain lines. Some that were in a book I am reading are the labyrinth, a faded albino, paragon.
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Re: Written off morphs

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Well I think the most commonly discussed is the jungle. Certainly "random" occurrence morphs like paradoxes and ringers may be less random but just misunderstood, especially as they are more common with in certain lines. Some that were in a book I am reading are the labyrinth, a faded albino, paragon.
I don't remember all of those but I can discuss some of them.

So a lot of stuff came in and never proved genetic, either incomplete dominant or recessive. Also, with some of the pattern mutations, "classic jungle" and I'm guessing labyrinth too, they were "one offs". Not genetic or they came from incubation/temperature complications.

Faded albino would just be a faded albino. The faded part never was inheritable as recessive/incomplete dominant. It would be polygenic. So if you took two ball pythons with a slightly faded colour to them some of their babies would carry a copy of each parents "faded" gene and thus look more faded then either one. It goes down the line. It's like breeding for high blushing.

Morphs that have a niche market or for the most fallen by the wayside are:

Deserts
Caramel Albino
Chocolate
Sable
Green/peach/extreme ghost
Genetic stripe
Disco
Vanilla
Mocha
Genetic black back
genetic banded
Red Axanthic
Citrus pastel
Whiteout pastel/Ruppel pastel
Spark
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Totes want a lesser stripe and a male desert...
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Re: Written off morphs

I forgot about:

Woma
Granite
Het Russo
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The blue ghost was a cool one. I'm guessing it didn't prove genetic.
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The blue ghost was a cool one. I'm guessing it didn't prove genetic.
Good call. Depends if it were actually ever real in the first place.

True ghost did proven genetic but nobody cares about hypo axanthic animals.
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