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Old 09-19-13, 04:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Scaleless Ball Python???

So BHB has the world 1st scaleless ball python and so far it looks really cool but wont it probably have some crazy shed problems?
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Old 09-19-13, 04:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???

I wouldn't call it a world's first. There was another before this a few years ago. It's dead though from what I've read.

Also, it's not out of the egg yet so I reserve judgement on it until see it thrive.
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???

First one was called the derma ball. It was like 80 % or so scaleless, I don't know if its dead or if someone bought it and it was never heard from again, but yea....Is the new one 100% scaleless?

Edit: To answer your question, we already have scaleless corns, ratsnakes, beardies, etc. So I don't think it would necessarily have any issues with shedding. But like Aaron said, there is nothing to say the super form is lethal and won't last out of the egg except for a few hours / days...
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First one was called the derma ball. It was like 80 % or so scaleless, I don't know if its dead or if someone bought it and it was never heard from again, but yea....Is the new one 100% scaleless?
No clue. It's STILL IN THE EGG! lol...
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No clue. It's STILL IN THE EGG! lol...
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???

The hets had scales missing from their heads. Brian is hoping it proves to be co-dom and creates a fully scaleless snake.
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???

I wonder if they have an egg tooth...
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So basically nothing is known about the genetics at the moment....
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Anything to make him money, he'll do. Those people don't give a **** about the health of snakes. Pariahs in the reptile community IMO.

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So basically nothing is known about the genetics at the moment....
According to Brian, it is a codominate morph and the 100% scaleless is the super form. Thats just speculation although from the pictures of the egg it does look like it will be 100% scaleless..
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According to Brian, it is a codominate morph and the 100% scaleless is the super form. Thats just speculation although from the pictures of the egg it does look like it will be 100% scaleless..
Doesn't mean we can be certain of the genetics.

It might not survive either. Just like other "super forms".

Also, it's an accomplishment if it does prove genetic and that's neat in it's own right but I don't want anything that has increased health concerns that may affect it's quality of life.
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Doesn't mean we can be certain of the genetics.

It might not survive either. Just like other "super forms".

Also, it's an accomplishment if it does prove genetic and that's neat in it's own right but I don't want anything that has increased health concerns that may affect it's quality of life.
Say it does survive, what has the breeder actually accomplished? It's not like he really did anything special.
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Say it does survive, what has the breeder actually accomplished? It's not like he really did anything special.
He's accomplished making all the kids and ignorant uneducated hicks that watch his YouTube show jump for joy at the promise of perhaps making millions of dollars breeding ball pythons (since he says it's so easy to make it rich).

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