I dread to think what it`ll be like to inject Sunday!! lol I think darts and an air gun might be a better bet ! lol I had a spare rat at the end of todays feeding so I gave it to Sunday being as he`s getting so huge. He`s like the snake room hoover now lol I use him to hoover up leftover rats lol As you say, they`ll sit there looking dead, such a cumbersome snake hardly looks like it can move like these guys do either, then BANG!!!! It`s like bloody lightning isn`t it!! Sunday usually stalks his way up to about a foot away from his dinner and then hits it too fast for my eye to see, I just feel a bump on the tongs and hear a bang, that`s it. I think "Formidable" is a good word for these guys...