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Old 01-16-18, 10:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Paludarium

Hello, i have a paludarium containing 3 fire belly toads, 3 zebra danios and 3 peppered cory dora. At first i wanted to add some tree frogs and anoles but i wanted to spice it up a little. So i heard that dwarf mountain dragons and amazon tree boas are good.
Amazon boas: research said that they’re not really an animal to handle
Dwarf mountain dragon: looks nice (information would be appreciated)

Also, I though of corn snakes or garter snakes but wasn’t sure if they would eat the toads.

My tank is 36Hx24Lx18D

Anyone know any other potential animals or more information on the ones above?
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Old 01-16-18, 04:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Paludarium

I suppose you mean Amazon tree boas (Corallus hortulanus)? For an adult your paludarium would be to small, especially it wouldn’t be high enough, since these snakes are extremely arboreal snakes.

I am not sure about the lizard. Do you mean Mountain Horned Dragon (Acanthosaura capra)?? If so, the same as for the boa, the paludarium would be to small.

I think for a corn snake a paludarium is to wet, they don’t need a large water pool, but would need the same floor space you can provide as dry area.

For garter snakes they might very well be interested in your toads.

Sorry for the bad news, but I think the combination frogs/toads and snakes or large lizards doesn’t work (for the toads) in almost all combinations.


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Old 01-18-18, 08:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Paludarium

Ok thank you, is there anything else that can live in the tank (50% water/50%land)

Also they’re are Dwarf mountain dragons( they basically stay smaller)

And if i provide hides for the corn snake will it be fine?
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Old 01-18-18, 09:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Paludarium

Like Roman said, mountain horned dragons, even dwarf horned mountain dragons (which I've never heard of) should not be housed in a paludarium. They will eat pretty much anything they can fit in their mouths, and this includes your fish and toads. Also they prefer a more vertically oriented enclosure. Your enclosure is not optimal for a corn snake, and the snake will not thrive in that sort of enviorment. There are not many suitable reptiles I can think of, and anything that can survive in that environment will need special lighting and heating that's not good for the toads or fish. If you want to house any reptile, it's best to do it in separate enclosures. The only thing I can recommend to your enclosure are springtails which will eat any waste.
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So 3 feet tall is not good?

Anyways thanks for the help, if u have more tips it would be appreciated!
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Old 01-18-18, 03:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Sorry, I misread your dimensions, I thought your enclosure would be 36 in long. But even 36 high is not high enough for something as long as an Amazon tree boa or a medium sized lizard and the small floor space of 24 x 18 is on the small size for most snakes (at least those you might commonly find in the pet trade), especially if halve of it is water.

The snakes which would appreciate the water (like smaller North American water snakes (Genus Nerodia) or garter snakes (Genus Thamnophis) would also appreciate the toads and your fish as food.

You might consider the brown snake (Storeria dekayi), a small snake feeding on earth worms and snails. Since these snakes are native to the US you might have to check if you are allowed to keep them in your area.



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Thanks for the recommendation, i've never heard of brown snake, i'll look them up.
And as lizards there's nothing else?
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