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Old 10-14-16, 12:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Superball!!

!Please don't go on a rant about hybridization!
Has anyone heard about Superballs before? I just now heard about one and I'm super excited! It's a ball python x blood python cross, so it looks like a ball, but is a little bit smaller than a blood! My only problem is there are no care sheets for them. Anyone have any advice, or links to a care sheet that I've missed?
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With any hybrid care is trial and error as you don't don't know whicb parrent it takes the most after. So if you get one, just follow general care guides of one and move it along a line towards the other until you find the sweet spot.

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Old 10-14-16, 05:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't have much experience housing ball blood crosses but if you plan to breed the offspring, that can be problematic. They usually have fertility issues with most of them being infertile and unable to reproduce successfully. Which can make for a animal with behavioral issues secondary to this.
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Roussis reptiles is the first person to make the superball with a borneo short tail and a ball python. Anything we say here will be conjecture so go straight to the source!
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!Please don't go on a rant about hybridization!
Has anyone heard about Superballs before? I just now heard about one and I'm super excited! It's a ball python x blood python cross, so it looks like a ball, but is a little bit smaller than a blood! My only problem is there are no care sheets for them. Anyone have any advice, or links to a care sheet that I've missed?
If you are.interested in conversing with other hybrid keepers you can visit and join one of their forums. Hybridhaven.com
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It seems the sites up for sale
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Wow! That was the main site that I was aware of. Sorry.
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I think that was the site I used to visit to get any info from but I haven't been there ages so I'm not sure
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I don't have much experience housing ball blood crosses but if you plan to breed the offspring, that can be problematic. They usually have fertility issues with most of them being infertile and unable to reproduce successfully. Which can make for a animal with behavioral issues secondary to this.
Do you have any source to substantiate these claims Albert?
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HYBRIDS BETWEEN SPECIES

In the late 1970's, the Royal Melbourne Zoo had a male Carpet python Morelia spilota successfully breed with a female Scrub python Morelia amethistina, and Water python Liasis fuscus. The offspring produced were intermediate in characteristics between the parent snakes, and themselves appear to be fertile, although at the time of writing had not successfully bred. The snakes had however, produced eggs which failed to hatch. The snakes in question were held for some years by the Royal Melbourne Zoo before being transferred to Renmark Reptile Park (South Australia). The proprietor of this park, Joe Bredl Senior, allowed this author to photograph specimens resulting from both hybridisations. The photos clearly show the intermediate appearances of the snakes and are reproduced here.

That the Scrub python and Water python
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heterozygosity, though hybrid and heterozygous are not, strictly speaking, synonymous.
a genetic hybrid carries two different alleles of the same gene
a structural hybrid results from the fusion of gametes that have differing structure in at least one chromosome, as a result of structural abnormalities
a numerical hybrid results from the fusion of gametes having different haploid numbers of chromosomes
a permanent hybrid is a situation where only the heterozygous genotype occurs, because all homozygous combinations are lethal.
From a taxonomic perspective, hybrid
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Not to argue but I think you may find that this may be down to individual snakes or luck or whatever, otherwise how could we explain the likes of jungle retics which are a burm x retic which makes bateaters then crossed back to a retic
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Not to argue but I think you may find that this may be down to individual snakes or luck or whatever, otherwise how could we explain the likes of jungle retics which are a burm x retic which makes bateaters then crossed back to a retic
Hey dave, the Borneo bateaters and burmballs are in a group of known hybrids. I don't know specifically about the percentages of viability and fertility once the offspring is bred back. Although it seems to be problematic.
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dave, try this site hybridherp.com
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Thanks Albert I'll check it out
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